To: Hermann the Cherusker
Which of those things is not true?
98 posted on
08/17/2005 6:50:03 AM PDT by
dsc
To: dsc
"He was a student of the heretical existentialist Jacques Maritain. "
Maritain was not a heretic.
99 posted on
08/17/2005 7:06:05 AM PDT by
gbcdoj
(Let us ask the Lord with tears, that according to his will so he would shew his mercy to us Jud 8:17)
To: dsc; Hermann the Cherusker; gbcdoj
I made a list, almost none of them are verifable, many are old dog and pony items repeated without proof by those with the anti-catholic axe. I have no desire to repeat a load of cow dung. Here are my findings.
As Bishop Karol Wojtyla, of Krakow:
1. Matter of opinion.
2. Matter of opinion.
3. Billy Graham did not present a Homily.
As Pope John Paul II:
1. Dance is permitted in parts of Africa and Oceania. Instrument choices are dependent on the local Ordinary.
2. Dance is permitted in parts of Africa and Oceania.
3. Preaching to Lutherans is permitted, after all, they are Separated Brethren in Christ, not bloodthirsty cannibals.
4. Dance is permitted in parts of Africa and Oceania. In some places, people still do not wear the same clothes as westerners do.
5. Outside of Mass, the pope watched an Indian dance with a feather, and sing a Indian Song. This is a hysterical distortion.
6. The Muslims believe they worship the God of Abraham. This is factual.
7. Dance is permitted in parts of Africa.
8. I am waiting for anyone to corroborate this, so far all eyewitnesses must have been taken by the Natives of Togo. I believe it to be a fabrication.
9. Loincloths are proper dress in some non-western places. I can't find evidence of any ceremony.
10. The Tilak is made from sandalwood, not cow dung. It is applied to a Priest by a Christian Woman, as is the ancient practice since St. Timothy preached there.
11. He prayed with a Jew, the rest is a distortion.
12. This is a caricature of the AP report. All leaders prayed separatly, and without any religious artifacts.
13. He talked to Voodoo practitioners, it is a crime to talk to a sinner? Many voodoo practiononers are syncretic.
14. The local Ordinary set up a Mass with an unusual censor, I can't find where he smeared pitch on his face, that just doesn't make sense, from an aboriginal standpoint, or with my experience with pitch from trees. It is quite thick and pretty impossible to smear on a sensitive organ like the face.
15. The Pope does not approve buildings in Rome.
16. In Eastern Churches the Creed is different. Even though it was an article of disagreement, the underlying dogma of the Trinity remains unchanged.
17. This has been reposted in the list and only this list, no other source has been found.
18. Proper dress differs in different areas of the World. Spears and Swords are often part of a man's formal attire. Knights of Columbus bear Swords to Church all the time.
19. I have found no evidence of this, and this would be the Popes prerogative.
20. Kissing a Koran is a meaningless act, done to placate an ambassador. If Kissing a Koran would prevent the execution of Priests in Saudi Arabia, he should have kissed a stack of them.
21. They have no official capacities in the Catholic Church, and he could ask anyone he likes to help open such a door. It is not a sacramentary act, it is a Sacramental of the Church. Asking them to participate does not lead to the conclusion there is inter-communion.
104 posted on
08/17/2005 7:38:27 AM PDT by
Dominick
("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
To: dsc
I know for a fact that the Tilak in India incident is totally false. Others can tell you more about the rest.
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