[RFT1]

I hate to say this, but many people that have become anti Traditional such as I Shawn McIlheny and a few posters here seem to fallen into the cult of personality that the papacy of Pope John Paul II(and to be fair this was not his intention) became in its later years. It seems to be the different side of the same coin that many traditionals on the other side have not only become Sedes but even become in effect, almost calvanist puritians(the snide remarks made at traditional Catholic youth at WYD attire)

[bornacatholic]

Hey, no fair. I think John Paul II the Great is a Saint, but as far as me being a part of the cult of personality, I know no secret handshakes and that tatoo of him I have on my back is merely whimsical and no indication I am part of the JP II cult.

As to Mr. McElhinney, who along with Mr. Vere wrote a piece for the Wanderer called, roughly, why we are traditionalists, he claims to be a traditionalist; so does Mr. Vere.

So, as it appears one becomes a traditionalist by a self-annointing, how does one, such as yourself, gain the authority to claim he isn't a traditionalist?

BTW, any Catholic who maintains the Bonds of Unity in Worship, Doctrine, and Auhtority is axiomatically a traditionalist due to the Doctrine that it is Rome, not a schism or an individual , who defines what is and isn't Tradition.

To the tune of "Dr. Pepper"

I'm a traddie

Site's a Traddie

Dom's a traddie

Wouldn't you like to be a Traddie too?

[ninenot]

Agreed.

Worse, a number of Catholics still seem to think that 'Bishop X does [this wrong thing,] therefore the Church [is good/is evil.]

The Church is indefectible. It's those dratted PEOPLE...