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Why Catholics Believe in the Assumption of Mary
Catholic Exchange.com ^ | 08-15-05 | Heidi Hess Saxton

Posted on 08/15/2005 9:01:28 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: annalex

I think that is the stuff I linked to!

Still wish I could remember that article..


21 posted on 08/15/2005 9:47:37 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: annalex

I think that is the stuff I linked to!

Still wish I could remember that article..


22 posted on 08/15/2005 9:47:41 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Salvation
[T]he bodily glorification of the virgin is an anticipation of the glorification that is the destiny of all the other elect.
Exactly.
23 posted on 08/15/2005 9:49:36 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: redgolum

There is an evidence from one of the Church fathers regarding Mary's empty tomb. I'll try to find it later.


24 posted on 08/15/2005 9:55:49 AM PDT by annalex
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To: FireWhen

OK, so the stuff about Mary has nothing at all to do with the bible, but it is RC tradition?


25 posted on 08/15/2005 9:58:30 AM PDT by biblewonk (A house of cards built on Matt 16:18)
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To: biblewonk

That is an over simplication of the issue read the linkd provided please.


26 posted on 08/15/2005 10:01:42 AM PDT by defconw (ALLEN IN 08+Levin for Senate!)
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To: biblewonk

"OK, so the stuff about Mary has nothing at all to do with the bible, but it is RC tradition?"

Yes, it is Catholic tradition, like the Bible itself is Catholic tradition. This part of the tradition is not written in that part of the tradition. It's both binding.


27 posted on 08/15/2005 10:05:23 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Salvation
The Bible does NOT teach this. Where did this assumption of Mary come from? Man's doctrine?
28 posted on 08/15/2005 10:07:03 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Vicomte13
This part of the tradition is not written in that part of the tradition. It's both binding.

How can you bind that on someone who is following what the Bible teaches? How do you claim to have the authority to do that? How?

29 posted on 08/15/2005 10:08:10 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

"The Bible does NOT teach this. Where did this assumption of Mary come from? Man's doctrine?"

Same place the Bible did: Catholic tradition.


30 posted on 08/15/2005 10:08:35 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

If you are asking because you are curious read the links. If you are trying to cause a fight, forget about it.


31 posted on 08/15/2005 10:08:35 AM PDT by defconw (ALLEN IN 08+Levin for Senate!)
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To: Dark Skies
"In all due respect, where does one go for Scriptural support regarding this matter?"

Fair question. My view is that if Jesus was taken up to heaven bodily [scripture] so was the mother's body that He was once part of. Mary was blessed among all women [scripture]. Just follows.

32 posted on 08/15/2005 10:09:59 AM PDT by ex-snook (Protectionism is Patriotism in both war and trade.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

"How can you bind that on someone who is following what the Bible teaches? How do you claim to have the authority to do that? How?"

Let me turn it around before I answer, so that we will both be answering a question, instead of it being interrogator and interrogated:

On what authority do you base the reliance upon the Bible alone?
And where in the Bible is what "Scripture" is defined?

The people who defined the Canon of the Bible venerated Mary. Including Martin Luther, who abridged the canons for Protestants, actually. Why was Luther right in abridging the Bible, deleting books therefrom, but wrong about Mary?


33 posted on 08/15/2005 10:12:48 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: BipolarBob
Jesus, as our example, prayed directly to God and never called upon any saints.

Why would Jesus (God) need to call on saints to intercede?

34 posted on 08/15/2005 10:17:57 AM PDT by Americanchild
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To: Vicomte13

Good answer I am just tired today and not looking for a fight.


35 posted on 08/15/2005 10:18:37 AM PDT by defconw (ALLEN IN 08+Levin for Senate!)
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To: FireWhen

Did you join just to make that comment? Can you elaborate on what you mean? Are you on this thread and not a Roman Catholic? Posts are often hard to accurately interpret. Perhaps you are being funny?


37 posted on 08/15/2005 10:21:24 AM PDT by defconw (ALLEN IN 08+Levin for Senate!)
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