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I did not forget the Crusades, they did not claim to be the Palestia, nor did they set up a government that evolved through three generations.

I just felt that the prophecy did not pertain to them. They may have felt that they ruled as the Knights Templars from the Temple Mount but history does not include them as a Government, but as a temporary occupying army. Israel remained a backwater during their occupation, just as it did under Salidin. At least that is the way it reads from what I have read.

Thanks for your input.

Al Omari Great Mosque Located in downtown Gaza at the end of Omar Mukhtar Street, al-Umari mosque with its beautiful minaret used to be a Norman church built by the Crusaders in the 12th century. It is said to occupy the site of the first ancient temple of Marnas.

I am no apologist for the Crusaders, who seem to have been a rampaging mob when they first appeared, and always very stupid to attack even the Eastern Christians as if they were 'infidels.' Their whole project was always bound to fail.

Still, that's history.

But I do think that they were very historically significant, and they were 100 years with Jerusalem as the capital of the Latin Kingdom (as you say, they never used the word Palestine, nor even seem to have known it.) Their contribution was tremedous, can still be seen, and they also brought a lot of Eastern culture back to the West, (including according to tradition, a secret learning acquired by the Knights Templar.)

So I do think that they have to be included in accounts of the line up to the history of Palestine. As to where they fit in with Scripture, I am not sure.