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To: bornacatholic
I keep seeing these names (Matatics, Keating, Sungenis etc etc) from time to time but I still haven't figured out who they are or why I'm supposed to get excited or pay attention to what they say.

As far as I can determine, there appears to be an insular, "apologetics" bubble, cut off from the real world and known to only a few cogniscenti where self-styled "Catholic" spokespeople duke it out among themselves for the title of heavyweight king or to determine who is the most Catholic. It all seems to get rather personal and involve a certain amount of rivalry.

Protestantism is characterized by a concern over what men (e.g. Matatics) think of the Pope.

Catholicism is characterized by a concern over what the Pope thinks (if anything) about men (e.g. Matatics).

I belong to the latter category.

I'm more concerned about the Pope's opinion of Traditionalists than vice versa.

80 posted on 08/09/2005 6:56:56 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

:) excellent point, brother. I must say that I am a big admirer of Mr. Keating though. He has/is doing great work


87 posted on 08/09/2005 8:08:26 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: marshmallow

Great post.


122 posted on 08/09/2005 1:21:07 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: marshmallow

I keep seeing these names (Matatics, Keating, Sungenis etc etc) from time to time but I still haven't figured out who they are or why I'm supposed to get excited or pay attention to what they say.

I don't believe anyone is forcing you at the end of a gun to listen to or read anything they say. But the last time I checked, they had the same right as you to express their opinions and fight for their issues if they so desire.

Catholicism is characterized by a concern over what the Pope thinks (if anything) about men (e.g. Matatics).

Wrong. Catholicism is characterized by four marks. One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic. Not what any one Pope thinks about "Men" Popes can be idiots. We've had several.

125 posted on 08/09/2005 1:42:11 PM PDT by Gerard.P (The lips of liberals drip with honey while their hands drip with blood--Bishop Williamson)
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To: marshmallow

That is so true. I know about the Traditionalist movement because one of my friends is in it and she has given me hundreds of Matatics tapes. I have also read a lot of Trad posts on FR. But just go to a Catholic function and mention the Trads and SSPX and no-one knows what or who you are talking about and they have a monastary just 50 miles away.


352 posted on 08/15/2005 7:25:57 AM PDT by tiki
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