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To: murphE; Hermann the Cherusker
How does anything posted by Hermann justify him calumniating Coulombe as a heretic for holding the doctrine EENS?

EENS and Baptism of Desire are both dogmas of the Church. Perhaps you missed Hermann's #232:

(St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, Part III, Q. 66, Art. 11)

Footnote. *) The 1928 Latin edition published by order of the Holy See includes the following note:

De fide est baptismum flaminis supplere vicem baptismi aquae, ita ut, cum is haberi non potest, votum ac sincerum desiderium recipendi illum, sufficiat ad saltuem, ut patet ex concil. Trid. (session 6, chapter. 4).

It is _de fide_ that baptism in the flame of the spirit supplies the place of baptism of water, so that, when the one cannot be obtained, the solemn vow or sincere desire for its reception suffices for salvation, as is clear from the Council of Trent (session 6, chapter 4). ...

Nota Bene: Pope Pius VII wrote on May 18, 1803 in confirming the investigations of the Holy Office: "no proposition worthy of censure has been found in the writings of Alphonsus de Liguori."

Coulumbe denies that, but it's de fide - so how is it a calumny to say he's a heretic?

353 posted on 08/15/2005 7:42:52 AM PDT by gbcdoj (Let us ask the Lord with tears, that according to his will so he would shew his mercy to us Jud 8:17)
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To: gbcdoj; murphE
Coulumbe denies that, but it's de fide - so how is it a calumny to say he's a heretic?

I've tried to be kind and avoid calling Messer. Coulombe a heretic, only saying that what he writes is heresy.

354 posted on 08/15/2005 7:50:52 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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