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To: Gerard.P
You don't know what Groeschel said and you can't fully address them. But you know that none of them apply.

No, your relation of what he was trying to say does not indicate any applicability of the points from the Syllabus.

211 posted on 08/11/2005 4:44:08 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker

No, your relation of what he was trying to say does not indicate any applicability of the points from the Syllabus.

Groeschel said that people are saved by believing in their own religion sincerely. He doesn't want people to convert. He wants Jews to be good Jews, Moslems to be good Moslems, Protestants to be good Protestants. etc.

15. Every man is free to embrace and profess that religion which, guided by the light of reason, he shall consider true.—Allocution "Maxima quidem," June 9, 1862; Damnatio "Multiplices inter," June 10, 1851.--CONDEMNED

He did not distinguish even Christianity as an exclusive way to salvation. Basically a Jew can be saved by being a good Jew.

16. Man may, in the observance of any religion whatever, find the way of eternal salvation, and arrive at eternal salvation.—Encyclical "Qui pluribus," Nov. 9, 1846..--CONDEMNED

He is positive that people are saved who are not in the Catholic Church.

17. Good hope at least is to be entertained of the eternal salvation of all those who are not at all in the true Church of Christ.—Encyclical "Quanto conficiamur," Aug. 10, 1863, etc..--CONDEMNED

215 posted on 08/11/2005 6:40:29 AM PDT by Gerard.P (The lips of liberals drip with honey while their hands drip with blood--Bishop Williamson)
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