Disciples of Christ to Israel: Drop dead

Jerusalem Post ^ | 8/7/5 | SUSAN BLATT

[topcat54]

The first two sentences of your explanation are sophistry.

Sophistry?? How so?

The last sentence calls for the conversion of the Muslims to Christianity.

Read closely, it also calls for the conversion of the Jews. That's the standard issue Christian gospel. All men must come to faith in Christ in order to experience true peace, both with God and with their fellow man. Temporal salvation is predicated on true eternal salvation.

[jjmcgo]

You are correct in saying there is a Jewish religion and a civil state of Israel. You assert that the citizens of Israel are under attack by Muslims because of the actions of the civil state. That is incorrect. Muslims hate Jews and are dedicated to eradicating them from the face of the Earth as they have done in Muslim-controlled countries.
The persistent attacks against Israel are not in response to actions taken by the government, they are done in pursuit of the goals of Islam.
Second point: OK, now you have complicated that matter by a factor of two. You are calling for both Jews and Muslims to be converted to Christianity. You and I and Ann Coulter have a long wait on that one.

[HighlyOpinionated]

To the Disciples of Christ:

Go BACK to the Beginning, Pray for GOD to give you HIS insight and Spirit and READ the Scriptures this time.

Oh, and sign up for the L.A.R.K. program. Here's a letter similar to the one you'll receive.

Subject: L.A.R.K. Program

DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, Washington, D.C.

Dear Concerned Citizen:
Thank you for your recent letter criticizing our treatment of the Taliban and Al Qaeda detainees currently held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The administration takes these matters seriously, and your opinion was heard loud and clear here in Washington. You'll be pleased to learn that, thanks to the concerns of citizens like you, we are creating the Terrorist Retraining Program, to be called the "Liberals Accept Responsibility for Killers" program, or LARK for short. In accordance with the guidelines of this new program, we have decided to place one terrorist under your personal care.

Your detainee has been selected and scheduled for transportation to your residence next Monday. Ali Mohammed Ahmed bin Mahmud is to be cared for pursuant to the standards you personally demanded in your letter of admonishment. We will conduct weekly inspections to ensure that your standards of care for Ahmed are commensurate with those you so strongly recommended in your letter. Although Ahmed is sociopathic and extremely violent, we hope that your sensitivity to what you described as his "attitudinal problem" will help him overcome this character flaw. Perhaps you are correct in describing these problems as mere cultural differences.

Your adopted terrorist is extremely proficient in hand-to-hand combat and can extinguish human life with such simple items as a pencil or nail clippers. He is also expert at making a wide variety of explosive devices from common household products, so you may wish to keep those items locked up, unless you feel that this might offend him.

Ahmed will not wish to interact with your wife or daughters since he views females as a subhuman form of property. This is a particularly sensitive subject for him. He has been known to show violent tendencies around women who fail to comply with the dress code that he considers appropriate, but I'm sure that over time they will come to enjoy the anonymity offered by the bhurka. Just remind them that it is all part of respecting his culture and his religious beliefs.

Thanks again for your letter. We truly appreciate it when folks like you inform us of the proper way to do our job. Take good care of Ahmed and good luck!

Cordially, Don Rumsfeld

(A person wrote a letter to the Dept. of Defense complaining about the treatment of a captive taken during the Afghanistan war. The above is probably an Urban Legend, but it could have been sent. Or should have.)

[HighlyOpinionated]

All men must come to faith in Christ in order to experience true peace, both with God and with their fellow man.

Are you sure?

The Catholic Church hierarchy has reread the intent of the Scriptures and the purpose of the Hebrews/Jews. I believe The Church states they await the first coming of the same Messiah which Christians await for the second coming.



Of course, the Muslims are going to be very very surprised when the Messiah hands each a couple of beautiful white raisins and then boots them to . . . well, you can figure that one out yourself.

[Bellflower]

One can call themselves a Church but many that do are not. Jesus said the wheat would grow up among the tares.

To be a real church the people of the Church must know Jesus personally. For many church is a social club and makes them feel good but they have very little knowledge of the real Jesus Christ nor of the righteousness of God.

[Bellflower]

One can call themselves a Church but many that do are not. Jesus said the wheat would grow up among the tares.

To be a real church the people of the Church must know Jesus personally. For many church is a social club and makes them feel good but they have very little knowledge of the real Jesus Christ nor of the righteousness of God.

[XEHRpa]

> Signs of rising Protestant anti-Semitism?

Pains my heart to see it, though I suspect it is only the left-wing Protestants who are laying this hand of cards on the table. I'm happy to report that my ELCA pastors are, not only conservative in outlook, but very anti-antisemitic.

After all, the Jews are God's chosen people. If, through sins of their own, they require corrective discipline, I leave it up to the Lord and don't consider it my place to try to put the screws to them, as so many are wont to do.

[topcat54]

"All men must come to faith in Christ in order to experience true peace, both with God and with their fellow man."

Are you sure?

Quite sure. Sometimes RC church opinion isn't worth spit.

[Minuteman23]

Even though you're probably right about this particular denomination not representing most, I still stand by my remarks. You might want to check out the National Council of Churches web site.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Oh, I know about the NCC. They are as far left as you can get and support ONLY 'Rats who support abortion on demand, homosexual marriage, higher taxes, etc.

[republican4ever]

I had never heard of these people. I used to attend a Pentecostal church that at all times reminded everyone of the promise of God to those who bless Israel.

[muawiyah]

The original resolution was blatantly anti-semitic. The final resolution was less so, and didn't call for disinvestment.

On the other hand the church hierarchy in the Disciples of Christ is as corrupt as any church hierarchy before it, which is why the Christian Church movement recommended NEVER filling the position of Bishop (or higher).

The Disciples definitely fell into the pit of Babylon when they created the Minister General.

It didn't work for Rome, and it doesn't work here. Time to give it up.

[muawiyah]

The problem with your argument is the gang within the DoC who are pushing for resolutions like this are are motivated by the antisemitism now sweeping through the Left like a hot knife through butter.

That's why we know the resolution was antisemitic.

[muawiyah]

DoC can also claim Wilson, and, by extension through a cognate group called Primitive Baptists, Abraham Lincoln.

There are other Presidents who were members or had been members.

BTW, just because you never heard of DoC doesn't mean they don't exist and haven't been influential.

Previous threads explain the structure, the relationships, etc. DoC is "part" of a far larger movement called "the Christian Church Movement".

[muawiyah]

A "bunch of white dessert grapes", not a "couple of white raisins".

We must be precise in our translations, eh?!

[muawiyah]

BTW, ROTFLMAOPMP

[tenn2005]

The Disciples of Christ are better known as the First Christian Church.

[muawiyah]

You guys sure you never heard of DoC?

Try Alexander Campbell. You can even look up early Mormon history (if that makes you more comfortable) and run into these guys ~ one branch of the early DoC ran off with Smith and Young in fact.

The Christian Church Movement is an outgrowth of the Restoration movement (not to be confused with the Reconstructionist movement).

Although DoC usually runs from 1.5 to 2.0 million in estimated membership (which counts ONLY baptised adults), the closely related independent Christian Church has about that many, and the Church of Christ (non-instrumental), theologically identical and sharing the same origins, but they sing a capala in the round, has more.

All told there are well over 10 million people (adults, children) who have some affiliation with one of these churches ~ however, ONLY the DoC makes resolutions.

As an item of interest, some members of the Christian Church (any of the three major divisions) believe adornment in the form of hats or jewelry constitutes idolotry. This is sometimes viewed as antisemitic by Jews who are shocked if a member of one of these churches refuses to don a yarmulka at a Jewish event. It's not antisemitic ~ and these guys don't necessarily bow their heads at prayer, and would probably have a full blow-out if required to kneel at an altar railing. I can only imagine what would happen to them in the presence of a Shi'ite going through the "let's pretend" handwashing before prayers. And the Pope? Can you see the reaction to a papal crown? My word! Shock, I tell you, shock ~ that's what they'd feel.

[muawiyah]

Depends ~ ever since the Rev. Jim Jones convinced his followers to drink purple coolaid, many congregations with that name "First Christian", LEFT and are part of the Independent branch.

[tenn2005]

You make a serious error when you lump the independent Churches of Christ with this group. The Church of Christ in no way resembles the description you give above. You need to check out the facts before painting with such a wide brush.