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To: RnMomof7
***This is not a salvation verse, it is speaking of literally people receiving the disciples into there home and taking care of them***

That is not necessarily the case. A person in a small town in Israel who heard the disciples speak (perhaps for the first time) and accepted the message and received them would have (in all likelihood) passed though a salvation experience.


***There are various teaching that that quote (Rev.) was specific to the church***

You have a point. More than likely the verse speaks to Christians.



***Note who it is that gives the POWER to become the son of God.. it is NOT the will of men ***


But also note that the Bible states that the power to become the child of God comes AFTER the person RECEIVES Christ.


What did you think of the Corinthians verse?

"Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We implore you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God. For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God."
815 posted on 08/06/2005 7:08:02 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus
But also note that the Bible states that the power to become the child of God comes AFTER the person RECEIVES Christ.

The question is who received him?

Jhn 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

What did you think of the Corinthians verse?

"Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We implore you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God. For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God."

I did not find it applicable to the discussion as this refers to a gospel presentation not to the question of WHO will hear it or who will come

My only interest in this discussion is such non biblical language as " choose Christ" or "free will" or " receive Christ as your saviour" is so easily accepted as true, while the gospel language of election and predestination... direct words and language and principles taught in the OT are disregarded as untrue because they do not tickle the ears of mens pride.

820 posted on 08/06/2005 7:21:37 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Sola Scriptura,Sola Christus,Sola Gratia,Sola Fide,Soli Deo Gloria)
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