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To: PetroniusMaximus; RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg
According to Paul, this is the ultimate act of loving - to lay down your life for your enemy (the world).

Hmmm, Jesus says that He laid down His life for His friends.


408 posted on 08/03/2005 9:03:30 AM PDT by ksen ("He that knows nothing will believe anything." - Thomas Fuller)
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To: ksen; PetroniusMaximus
PetroniusMaximus wrote
According to Paul, this is the ultimate act of loving - to lay down your life for your enemy (the world).

You responded

Hmmm, Jesus says that He laid down His life for His friends.
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. - John 15:13 (KJV)

It is so easy to bend scripture and make "his friends" into "His enemies" (the world).

I bet we even have a Greek scholar that can tell us friends really means enemies

Consider this

Jhn 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

There we have the chooser and the choose

Not a rope in sight !

418 posted on 08/03/2005 9:48:36 AM PDT by RnMomof7 (Sola Scriptura,Sola Christus,Sola Gratia,Sola Fide,Soli Deo Gloria)
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To: ksen

***Hmmm, Jesus says that He laid down His life for His friends.

* Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. - John 15:13 (KJV)***


That's true - greater love hath no MAN.

But Jesus is not *just* a man and his love exceeded that of mere men in that he layed down his life for his enemies.

Thoughts?


561 posted on 08/04/2005 6:50:58 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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