[Dr. Eckleburg]

No. I am saying nothing more than the fact that the Father forsees his Son in us. Upon that condition (however it is satisfied -- whether by force or by invitation) we are thereby elected unto salvation.

Your use of the term "by invitation" refutes and thus negates the "no" which begins your sentence.

So that my statement, "By this you are saying God foresees man's good choice to believe in Jesus Christ" is accurate.

And you put God's salvation into a temporal frame, whereas the names of the elect were known to God from before time, and truly before any "invitations" could be accepted or rejected.

Salvation is God's call, not ours.

[xzins]

Not so, Dr E.

I've been told by calvinists that they were not forced by God to believe. They have also told me that God did not believe for them, but that they believed for themselves.

Since no one is saved until they believe, I then asked what caused them to believe. They said it was an overwhelming compulsion.

Therefore, their coming to faith is via an overwhelming compulsion. Those who don't come to faith don't get overwhelmed by that compulsion.

[P-Marlowe]

And you put God's salvation into a temporal frame...

No I don't. I place God's decision in Eternity -- outside of any temporal dimension.

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Salvation is God's call, not ours.

Indeed it is. And he has chosen to save all those who believe.