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To: Dr. Eckleburg
If, however, you mean the "love" that redeems man's dead heart and gives him salvation by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, then, no, God does not love everyone. That's what Pink was saying clearly, and what MacArthur was skirting.

I don't think MacArthur was saying in that article that God loves the reprobate in the agape or redemptive sense. There are Calvinists who believe God does not have any love of any sort for the reprobate, and I believe MacArthur was defending against that view.

237 posted on 08/02/2005 12:55:25 PM PDT by Frumanchu (Saved by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone to the glory of God alone.)
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To: Frumanchu; RnMomof7; ksen; HarleyD; suzyjaruki
There are Calvinists who believe God does not have any love of any sort for the reprobate...

Again, I challenge you to name ONE Calvinist who says God has no "love of any sort for the reprobate."

This disagreement has come about over semantics. But the result is to divide the Reformed. Not good.

244 posted on 08/02/2005 1:10:01 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Frumanchu; Dr. Eckleburg
MacArthur asks the question "Does God So Love the World?" right out of John 3:16 and he answers it, yes God does, and he includes the unregenerate in that love. The word for love is agape, the self-sacrificing love, the same word He uses in Romans 5:8, "But God commendeth His love towards us in that while we were yet sinners, Christ dies for us."
258 posted on 08/02/2005 1:49:05 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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