[connectthedots]

That is correct, so one could not say that it either was or was not predestined.

[ksen]

True, but that verse is not used to help prove or disprove God's Election or Predestination. The verse is there to serve as an example of what we, as Believers, ought to do even in the face of opposition......serve God.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Everything is predestined.

Or else there is no God.