Posted on 08/01/2005 8:16:45 PM PDT by buckeyesrule
Carry on.
Yes it is
kosmos {kos'-mos} TDNT Reference Root Word TDNT - 3:868,459 probably from the base of 2865 Part of Speech n m
Outline of Biblical Usage
1) an apt and harmonious arrangement or constitution, order, government 2) ornament, decoration, adornment, i.e. the arrangement of the stars, 'the heavenly hosts', as the ornament of the heavens. 1 Pet. 3:3 3) the world, the universe 4) the circle of the earth, the earth 5) the inhabitants of the earth, men, the human family 6) the ungodly multitude; the whole mass of men alienated from God, and therefore hostile to the cause of Christ 7) world affairs, the aggregate of things earthly a) the whole circle of earthly goods, endowments riches, advantages, pleasures, etc, which although hollow and frail and fleeting, stir desire, seduce from God and are obstacles to the cause of Christ 8) any aggregate or general collection of particulars of any sort a) the Gentiles as contrasted to the Jews (Rom. 11:12 etc) b) of believers only, John 1:29; 3:16; 3:17; 6:33; 12:47 1 Cor. 4:9; 2 Cor. 5:19
Chapter 3 Read This Chapter 3:16 [ Greek Font Size: / + | Toggle Font ] [ View in: BYZ / TR | Side-by-side | Greek Lexical Parser ] [ Personal Notes: Add ] For God so loved (5656) the world, that he gave (5656) his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth (5723) in him should not perish (5643) , but have (5725) everlasting life. Outwv gar hgaphsen (5656) o qeov ton kosmon, wste ton uion ton monogenh edwken, (5656) ina pav o pisteuwn (5723) eiv auton mh apolhtai (5643) all' exh (5725) zwhn aiwnion.
"Original Word Word Origin ko/smov probably from the base of (2865) Transliterated Word Phonetic Spelling Kosmos kos'-mos Parts of Speech TDNT Noun Masculine 3:868,459"
see post 301
Did not see it til after I posted
***Okay, what would you tell John MacArthur about the significance of that word in Mark 10?***
Well, after I asked for his autograph.... (kidding!) I would say that it was an example of some one that Jesus specifically loved and allowed to walk away.
***Do you believe that God loves "the world" in the same way as the five people you have mentioned? ***
We need to look at how God "loved" the world.
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
God's concrete act of loving is to give - give His Son. He did this for the "world" (large set) with the result that those who believe (subset) will not perish.
According to Paul, this is the ultimate act of loving - to lay down your life for your enemy (the world).
"...for scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."
Is that the same kind of love He showed the 5? Yes, I believe it is. Is their experience of that love the same? No - definitely not. To paraphrase, the measure (of your heart) you give effects the measure (of enjoying the blessedness of God's love) you receive.
Your thoughts?
Consider the definition of the word WORLD .
Your sword still does not have a Mac version ??
That's so true. I have a co-worker who one second is yapping about Jesus and then the next second is saying the most vainly selfish things.
***Consider the definition of the word WORLD . ***
What specifically do you mean RnMomof7?
(Always a pleasure to hear from you.)
Yea no mac ....
I remember writing them years ago and they were just not interested in mac folks
***I remember writing them years ago and they were just not interested in mac folks***
No suprise there - (being that mac users are mainly heathen anyway).
"Jacob have I loved, and Esau have I hated." A time will come when we can ask Him "How is it that you chose, yet we're still responsible!?" Being where we'll be, I doubt we'll care...
When the jews spoke of the "world" they were usually speaking of The gentile nations around them.
That's certainly not true. When they spoke of "the nations," that is true, but "world" was not used to show the non-Jew. kosmox was used in the LXX to represent "universe," "inhabited earth," and "humanity," 3 TDNT 867 at 882.
If Christ holds agape love for those he will condemn for an eternity of fire one might really be concerned what kind of love that is.
It might be theologically inconvenient, and not very neat, but it is what the text says, and as Protestants, we're supposed to subjugate our theology to the text, not vice versa. kosmos is never used to describe just the elect in any other verse; why would it be here?
Kinda like the disciples, huh?
If a thread has anything to do with Calvinism/Arminianism, it will have lots of posts. It's been a while, so expect this thread to hit 500 by Friday, if not more.
Got to take back control of the first posts page from out RC brothers and sisters. ;-)
***To be precise, I would say "renewed" is the better terminology***
You are correct, "reborn" as opposed to "refurbished"!
***...to meditate on the wonders of the Godhead.***
Sometimes I think about the fact that God has given us eternal life because it will take an eternity to scratch the surface of all the wonders He contains within His person.
I assume youre focusing in on you were unwilling (v37) which would seemingly imply the scribes and the Pharisees had a choice and they chose to ignore their choice. I would refer back to 2 Chronicles for a similar statement.
God gives people legitimate choices in life. But man, unless regenerated, will always choose the wrong path bringing forth Gods wrath. Simply because man cannot turn from his ways does not make the calls of God to repent any less sincere.
But why God doesnt change the hearts of the scribes, Pharisees, and everyone for that matter to make everyone willing come to God is unknown. It is wrong to say that He doesnt wish to intrude on their free will as some would implied in Matt 23:37. God hardened Pharaohs heart so that He could display His glory and 4,000 years later we still are talking about the Passover and Pharaohs destruction. Undoubtedly God hardened the scribes and Pharisees hearts so that He could accomplish His will at the cross.
The Pharisees and scribes were unwilling to turn to our Lord Jesus because that is mans nature and God chose to leave them that way to accomplish His will. I see you were unwilling not so much as a condemnation of the scribes and Pharisees failure to repent but rather a statement of fact about their nature.
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