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To: Graves
Please state your authority.

Read the link I gave. Many are copied from a council held in Antioch in 348, for one thing. Another strong reason for doubting authenticity is that they were never entirely received in the Western Church - Pope St. Hormisdas, for instance, declared them apocryphal in the early sixth century.

Since that particular canon was apparently written by St. Clement, it looks more like 2nd century.

I suggest you look up the history of the Apostolic Constitutions, where the Apostolic Canons are derived from. They are a forgery in the name of St. Clement. Eusebius, when he gives St. Clement's writings, mentions only his First Epistle as valid, and his Second Epistle as doubtful. He certainly would have known about the Canons and the Constitutions if they had been written by St. Clement.

How come I, a known non-Catholic, was invited to one and invited to receive the sacrament?

That does not make "come one come all Eucharistic Hospitality sessions" a practice of the Catholic Church.

25 posted on 07/30/2005 6:11:54 PM PDT by gbcdoj (Without His assisting grace, the law is “the letter which killeth;” - Augustine.)
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To: gbcdoj
"How come I, a known non-Catholic, was invited to one and invited to receive the sacrament?
That does not make 'come one come all' 'Eucharistic Hospitality sessions' a practice of the Catholic Church"

Ah, here we go with the few bad apples argument.

I'm sorry gbcdoj, but after awhile the intensity level tends to speak volumes, particularly when we see the Pope himself leading the charge, as he did every year at Assisi. And, of course, at the local RC cathedral, the same thing went on. Hey, quit trying to hide it. Stand up and be proud of your ecumenism. You guys did this right up until the election of Pope Benedict XVI and now you want to pretend it never happened?

Now back to the Apostolic Canons. This is basic stuff. You don't like the canons? What's wrong with canons that forbid your ecumaniac common prayers and stuff? Too inconvenient are they? How about this one:
Canon LXIV.

If any clergyman or layman shall enter into a synagogue of Jews or heretics to pray, let the former be deposed and let the latter be excommunicated.
Or this:
THE BEGINNING OF CANON 2 OF THE COUNCIL "IN TRULLO": Declaring the Apostolic Canons to be a part of Orthodox canon law.

"It has also seemed good to this holy Council, that the eighty-five canons, received and ratified by the holy and blessed Fathers before us, and also handed down to us in the name of the holy and glorious Apostles, should from this time forth remain firm and unshaken for the cure of souls and the healing of disorders. And in these canons we are bidden to receive the Constitutions of the Holy Apostles [written] by Clement."

Seems OK to me. Not you? What's your problem?

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26 posted on 07/30/2005 6:41:27 PM PDT by Graves (Remember Esphigmenou - Orthodoxy or Death!)
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