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1 posted on 07/29/2005 6:03:11 PM PDT by servant675
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To: servant675

The obvious missing statement is that "allah" is not God!


2 posted on 07/29/2005 6:06:26 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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To: servant675
"Will some suicide bombers eventually obtain Heaven? The extent of the God's mercy will always remain a mystery to us, but we know that God is also Just, and those who kill themselves and/or others with the belief that their actions will guarantee them a place in Heaven, will experience that Justice."

I don't think there's any question that they're stoking the flames of hell. A prerequisite to entering Heaven is that you believe in God, Jesus Christ. They worship a pagan moon good.
4 posted on 07/29/2005 6:10:53 PM PDT by Jaysun (Name one war — anywhere — that had a "timetable".)
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To: servant675

How about "Yes", but with no virgins to play with, only models previously used?

Who here takes Mohammed seriously?


5 posted on 07/29/2005 6:11:34 PM PDT by Graves (Remember Esphigmenou - Orthodoxy or Death!)
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To: servant675

No


6 posted on 07/29/2005 6:12:14 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: servant675

Not according to the teachings of Islam, says Bernard Lewis.

If you commit suicide, even to end your own suffering, you are cursed to hell for eternity, killing yourself over and over again by the same means you did in life.

Mohammed refused to attend the funeral of a mortally wounded associate who killed himself to end his own suffering.

In the Koran, it states that a man who dies by his own hand shall be banished to hell, even if he is deserving of paradise in every other respect.

Apparently, it is pretty clear, and the murderers are being sold a bill of goods by the murderers convincing themselves to kill themselves.


7 posted on 07/29/2005 6:37:31 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: servant675

This is kind of a waste of words.

The real question is how bad is Hell going to be for them?


15 posted on 07/29/2005 8:05:58 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: servant675; All

CCC Paragraph 2282: "Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide."
"2283 We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives."

I quote the first part of this, because I cannot think of a more grave psychological disturbance than one who would strap a bomb to themselves and blow up the innocent.

Naturally, the vast majority of suicide bombers aren't Christians, so the issue is moot, but, the answer to that question is in God's hands, not mine, nor is it in the hands of anybody posting on this board.


17 posted on 07/29/2005 8:30:09 PM PDT by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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To: servant675

"NOONE COMES TO THE FATHER BUT THROUGH MR"

These words of Jesus certainly settles the issue


21 posted on 07/29/2005 9:29:26 PM PDT by cilcia
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To: servant675
An interesting question, that deserves thought...

I think the answer is in Ezekiel 23 thru 25 and maybe even more.

All of todays events are foretold in the Bible, if we will only search for the answer.

Yes... terrorist are responsible for their actions, but
weren't we told "So shall the LORD bring upon you all evil things..."?

23 posted on 07/30/2005 1:18:45 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die)
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To: servant675
Those who seek to terrorize others by killing themselves along with innocent people can never be assured of reaching Heaven.

Say what? "Never be assured?" How about they can count on the fact they will find themselves in hell? Suicide is not the issue, if your goal is to deliberately kill innocent people, you are going to straight to hell.

24 posted on 07/30/2005 1:24:52 AM PDT by Casloy
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To: servant675
WILL SUICIDE BOMBERS OBTAIN HEAVEN?

I certainly don't expect to see any of them there when my time comes. ;-)

26 posted on 07/30/2005 1:42:40 AM PDT by Allegra (Less Than 20 Days Until R&R - W'HOOOO!)
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