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Cardinal Arinze Reiterates - for the N'th Time - No Communion for Pro-Abort Politicians
LifeSite ^ | July 25, 2005

Posted on 07/26/2005 11:25:09 AM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 07/26/2005 11:25:09 AM PDT by NYer
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...


2 posted on 07/26/2005 11:26:35 AM PDT by NYer ("Each person is meant to exist. Each person is God's own idea." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer
the denial of Holy Communion to pro-abortion politicians is a no-brainer.

Yes. But. What does that really mean?

I think we have a few no-brainers running dioceses, don't we?

3 posted on 07/26/2005 11:35:28 AM PDT by siunevada
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To: NYer
I wish Cardinal Arinze should avoid the folksy tone and speak in plain language to the amchurch liers. It is very naive of him to think that his rhetorical question in lieu of an answer will have any positive effect.

Expect the American bishops to say:

-- Cardinal Arinze had two opportunities to condemn giving communion to deathist politicians, and he declined to do so two times.

-- But, but, he said "children form the first Communion would know the answer"!

-- Show me a quote where Cardinal Arinze condemns the practice. Thank you, case closed.


4 posted on 07/26/2005 11:38:26 AM PDT by annalex
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To: NYer
In book-length interview with journalist Peter Seewald, the future Pope Benedict XVI said of bishops whose first instinct is to avoid conflicts, "Peace is not the first civic duty, and a bishop whose only concern is not to have any problems and to gloss over as many conflicts as possible is an image I find repulsive."

Pope finds 85% of American bishops 'repulsive' -- film at 11

5 posted on 07/26/2005 11:38:49 AM PDT by Campion (Truth is not determined by a majority vote -- Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer
"Peace is not the first civic duty, and a bishop whose only concern is not to have any problems and to gloss over as many conflicts as possible is an image I find repulsive."
Benedict!
6 posted on 07/26/2005 11:52:27 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: Campion
Pope finds 85% of American bishops 'repulsive'

Now THAT'S a headline. I don't think I'll hold my breath waiting for the media to write the story. They're too busy with womyn 'priests' for the moment.

7 posted on 07/26/2005 12:05:19 PM PDT by siunevada
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To: sandyeggo

"Roger Mahoney, please report to the principal's office."


9 posted on 07/26/2005 12:24:30 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: annalex

>>>It is very naive of him to think that his rhetorical question in lieu of an answer will have any positive effect.

I'm beginning to wonder. Has he stated it clearly elsewhere? Isn't this the second time he's given this indirect response? I'm wondering if he is simply hesitant to speak directly about American politics, as he fears that screeches about the Vatican interferring in politics?

If not, why won't he state it clearly.

patent


10 posted on 07/26/2005 12:33:10 PM PDT by patent (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on. Carl Sandburg)
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To: patent

Exactly. As has been pointed out elsewhere, the problem with his statement is that few, if any, politicians will take the position that they want abortions to occur.

They will take the weasely position of personally opposing abortion, but also opposing the legal prohibition thereof.

So, His Eminence would do us all a great favor by answering the question in a way that addresses that.


12 posted on 07/26/2005 12:43:07 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: sandyeggo

ROFL...I had heard that one before, but it's a good one.


13 posted on 07/26/2005 12:44:42 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: NYer

"Those who…obstinately persist in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to Holy Communion."

This also applies to:
1. Divorced and remarried
2. Homosexuals
3. Those using birth control

Many American Catholics won't be happy.


14 posted on 07/26/2005 12:55:33 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Choose life!)
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To: patent
Has he stated it clearly elsewhere?

Not to my knowledge. On the other hand, it is at least the second time he answers with an evasion like this. The other time I remember was in his interview with World Over Live with Raymond Arroyo earlier this year.

He should know better. In particular, given the all-out assault on the freedom of religion in America, it would help if he were not acting intimidated in stating clearly what is an internal church matter.

15 posted on 07/26/2005 12:57:39 PM PDT by annalex
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I'm beginning to wonder.

"During the press conference Cardinal Arinze was asked about U.S. presidential candidate John Kerry, a Catholic, who causes scandal by receiving Communion despite his pro-abortion stand. Asked if Kerry should be refused Communion, Arinze responded, "The norm of the church is clear. The Catholic Church exists in the United States and there are bishops there. Let them interpret it."

When pressed on such "unambigiously pro-abortion" Catholic politicians, Arinze said such a politician "is not fit" to receive communion. "If they should not receive, then they should not be given," he said.

Vatican Cardinal Arinze Says Pro-Abortion Politicians Must be Denied Holy Communion

16 posted on 07/26/2005 1:40:51 PM PDT by NYer ("Each person is meant to exist. Each person is God's own idea." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: FatherofFive
Many American Catholics won't be happy.

I agree, but then again, a Bishops job isn't to make us happy. How many of these men are going to suffer, eternally or not, along with those whom they let fall due to their weak or lukewarm attitude to their calling. My kids sure aren't happy with me a lot, but I'm pretty sure that they will reap the benefits of having a father rather than a buddy some day.

17 posted on 07/26/2005 1:59:16 PM PDT by conservonator (Lord, bless Your servant Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer
Are there no children from First Communion to whom you can pose the question and receive the answer?


HA! That was pretty funny.
18 posted on 07/26/2005 2:09:36 PM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: FatherofFive
2. Homosexuals

Sexually Active Homosexuals...

Homosexuality is a disorder NOT a sin... Sodomy on the other hand...

19 posted on 07/26/2005 2:24:19 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: FatherofFive
1. Divorced and remarried

LOL -you swipe a broad brush -why?

Should be those not divorced for legitimate reason and those remarried without a previous marriage declared null -in otherwords, ADULTERERS

20 posted on 07/26/2005 2:27:40 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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