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To: kosta50

RE: Maronites union with Rome

You are quite right concerning my lack of citations.

The Maronites have been in union with the See of Rome since the time of St. Maron. There is unanimity on that fact as far as historians are concerned. Additionally, there is no evidence for any heterodoxy among the Maronites of Lebanon.

The Patriarch of the Maronites Jeremias II Al-Amshitti (and interestingly a legate of the Patriarch of Alexandria) were present and fully participated in the 4th Lateran Council in 1215 AD. No profession of union or faith was required by the Maronites. The Maronites worked closely with Rome in the administration of the Latin Principality of Antioch, established in the late 11th century and later destroyed by the Kurdish Saladin in an Islamic Jihad.

The Maronites of Lebanon continued to enjoy full and close union with Rome during this period.


During the Council of Florence, session 14, 7 August 1445, a single Maronite bishop (Elias) and a single Chaldean bishop (Timothy) on the Island of Cyprus were reunited with Rome, as they had become followers of Macarius and Nestorius. The union profession applied only to these 2 bishops, their clergy and faithful in Cyprus.

The Maronite community in Lebanon in the intervening years, grew and matured with its contact with the West.

After a massacre of Maronites in 1860, France intervened and was given protectorate powers over Catholic subjects of the Ottoman Empire. The Maronites, under French protection, were a singular thriving community during this period in the Middle East. France granted Lebanon full independence in 1944. The beginning of Islamic Jihad in 1975 brought war to Lebanon, which fell after the US fled, in 1981.

Taken from: Decrees of the Ecumenical Councils, VI, N. Tanner; The Eastern Christian Churches, R. Roberson; The Middle East, B. Lewis.


188 posted on 07/27/2005 6:58:46 PM PDT by sanormal
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To: sanormal
You are still gioving me fairytales. I want references to specific documents; not narratives.

The Maronites were never heterodox?

A summary of the Council of Florence, and its extension, specifies:

"Finally the council was transferred to Rome on 24 February 1443. There other decrees of union with the Bosnians, the Syrians and finally with the Chaldeans and Maronites of Cyprus, were approved. The last session of the council was held on 7 August 1445."

The Maronites did not have to make a profession of faith?

How about an actual trascript of conversion of some of the Maronites? The Bull of Union, Session 14—7 August 1445:

"After that, the Chaldeans sent to us the aforesaid metropolitan Timothy, and Bishop Elias of the Maronites sent an envoy, to make to us a solemn profession of the faith of the Roman church."

The Maronites were not Nestorian?

"...and Elias, bishop of the Maronites, who with his nation in the same realm was infected with the teachings of Macarius, together with a whole multitude of peoples and clerics subject to him in the island of Cyprus."

This is from the Council of Florence, the official documentation of the Roman Catholic Church. This is historically accurate and factually verifiable.

Your quotes are someone's narrative, telling a fairytale that is as misleading as much as it is void of fact.

190 posted on 07/27/2005 8:16:56 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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