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To: Honorary Serb

I sympathize. Neither of the cases cited is in fact an innovation by the English church but were restorations of conditions prior to late Medieval Roman decisions. That is, Innocent (III?) declared that the Western clergy must in all cases be celibate. That was not the universal case before his day. As for the vernacular, well, Latin WAS the vernacular when the Mass was developed.

In Christ,
Deacon Paul+


5 posted on 07/12/2005 1:54:53 PM PDT by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, protector of the Innocent, pray for us!)
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To: BelegStrongbow

Umnnnhhh....

There's more than a little controversy as to the absolute truth of your claim about Innocent III's proclamation.

Just because I.3's WRITTEN declaration was issued in XXXX does not mean that the practice/discipline/tradition was not used beforehand.

There is a good deal of evidence that priests were expected to be either celibate or continent (if married) from Day One. Not conclusive, yet, but extremely persuasive.

Violations of the expectation were numerous and sometimes infamous--but what's new?


28 posted on 07/13/2005 7:17:39 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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