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[hispanichoosier]

"Those Anglican priests who were received into the church were received for positive reasons -- for example, that they accepted the teaching authority of the church," he said.

Limited props to this bishop. I hope he isn't intending to discourage orthodox Anglicans' re-union with Rome. I do agree, however, that the Church should ensure that those Anglicans who decide to rejoin Rome are in agreement with respect to papal supremacy.

[Honorary Serb]

"The Church of England, catholic and reformed, has before acted prophetically for the wider church: The vernacular liturgy, married clergy, have all been pioneered by our church....

Yeah, right! What about the Orthodox Church?

These deluded revisionists need to lose their "enthusiast" nonsense about being "prophetic" and "pioneering", and get back to orthodox catholic bedrock truth!!!!

[MadIvan]

Bish, me old mate, as a British Catholic, I'm not complaining.

Regards, Ivan

[NYer]

"But there is an understanding that you don't come into the Catholic Church for a negative reason.

Thanks for the ping, sionnsar!

The bishop makes an excellent point and one that has concerned the church as it witnesses the flood of emigrants paddling across the Tiber. This must be a choice based on agreement with catholic catechesis, not on the ordination of women to bishop.

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[Siobhan]

Declan's a heretic and always has been! He wants female ordination in the Roman Catholic Church, and the last thing on earth he wants are conservative Anglicans coming into the Catholic Church.

Declan isn't even a Catholic any more. He's an evil heretic! Is anyone listening?

Siobhan, in full banshee mode

[marshmallow]

"Those Anglican priests who were received into the church were received for positive reasons -- for example, that they accepted the teaching authority of the church," he said.

Right. Like everyone who presently calls themselves a cradle "Catholic" accepts the teaching authority of the Church. How about applying this standard to everyone within the Catholic Church, not just the new entrants? I'll accept these converts any day over some of the homegrown malcontents and heretics who presently infest the Catholic Church.

Maybe we could do a trade.

We'll take all of the Anglicans who've had it wiv wimin in clerical dress and in return, we'll ship them as many of our own pro-wimin's ordination, pro-abortion, pro-homosexuality AmChurch whackos, as they want.

This is what I call real ecumenism.

All those men and women of good will who desire sound doctrine and wish to submit themselves to the Vicar of Christ will thus end up in one place and those who prefer a do-it-yourself approach to Christianity will likewise be happy in their own lunatic asylum.

It sounds like the Anglicans are getting ready to swim the Tiber. All we need to do now is to convince the likes of Card. Mahony to officially leave and swim in the opposite direction and everyone should be happy.

[Siobhan]

Imagine, this was Declan's "Easter" Message" for the captive diocese:

Clifton Bishop's Easter Message:
Oscar Romero was assassinated on the 24th of March 1980. He was Archbishop of San Salvador, the capital city of El Salvador in Central America. Perhaps to us in this country, bishops are unlikely assassination targets, but to people in authority in El Salvador, Romero was a dangerous man. Through his words and through upholding the rights of the poor, Romero threatened their power base. He exposed corruption. He was a man with integrity and because of his integrity some people felt very uncomfortable. The solution was to rid themselves of this prophet. And so they killed him whilst he was celebrating Mass.

At one time those in authority applauded Romero. He was one of them. He was a good man but not someone who would upset the status quo. What they did not count on was that Romero would change. And the change occurred because he began to listen to the stories of the poor and the marginalised. He began to see their plight and the injustices under which they lived. This gave him a new perception on how life should be if there was to be justice for all. Not only did Romero change, he sought to change others and the structures of his society so that everyone would see life with new eyes. He died to his old perceptions of what is right and he became a new person.

This weekend we celebrate Easter, the main Christian Feast that extends from Thursday evening through Friday and Saturday to Easter Sunday. We celebrate the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. We believe that in learning to die to selfishness and injustice, we can become a new people. We believe that structures in society that crush people rather enhance their lives can be changed. We believe that Jesus shows us a new way of life and enables us to live it.

Not long before he died, Oscar Romero said: “As a Christian I don’t believe in death without resurrection.” His own life was a story of dying and rising. He died to his old understanding of life and rose to a new one. That resurrection brought him to a martyr’s death but he lives on. He is an inspiration to many of what it means to be a friend of the poor and a champion of justice. This Easter what do we have to die to in order to live?

[mware]

I would say to those who wish to convert.

"Welcome Home."

[Polycarp1]

Bp. Butler is incorrect.

Vernacular Liturgy and married clergy have always been a part of the Eastern Orthodox Churches so the Anglican Communion has pioneered nothing in this regard and to link that to other "pioneering" efforts like female and gay ordination is so basic a flaw in reasoning that it boggles the mind.