[TradicalRC]

If we say it does, it does. We are the state.

And if the state becomes a communist oligarchy and demands our allegiance or a lifetime of "community service"? L'etat C'est moi?

[dsc]

"And if the state becomes a communist oligarchy"

How odd it is that several people have decided to attribute extreme positions to me, that go far beyond anything I have proposed.

Shouldn't it be obvious that arguments predicated on the Declaration of Indpendence presume that government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed?