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To: NYer; Petrosius

As to the "celebrations marking the enthronement of Benedict XVI", did Pope Benedict XVI take the oath that all newly elected popes of Rome have taken since the 7th century, the one Pope John Paul II dispensed with? The one in which the Pope of Rome pledges to be Orthodox, in which he says "We subject to severest excommunication anyone -- be it Ourselves or be it another -- who would dare to undertake anything new in contradiction to this constituted evangelic Tradition and the purity of the orthodox Faith and the Christian religion, or would seek to change anything by his opposing efforts, or would agree with those who undertake such a blasphemous venture." http://www.trosch.org/lit/papal_coronation_oath.html
Just asking.


7 posted on 07/05/2005 5:24:59 AM PDT by Graves ("Orthodoxy or death!")
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To: Graves
"As to the "celebrations marking the enthronement of Benedict XVI", did Pope Benedict XVI take the oath that all newly elected popes of Rome have taken since the 7th century, the one Pope John Paul II dispensed with? The one in which the Pope of Rome pledges to be Orthodox, in which he says "We subject to severest excommunication anyone -- be it Ourselves or be it another -- who would dare to undertake anything new in contradiction to this constituted evangelic Tradition and the purity of the orthodox Faith and the Christian religion, or would seek to change anything by his opposing efforts, or would agree with those who undertake such a blasphemous venture." http://www.trosch.org/lit/papal_coronation_oath.html
Just asking."

My understanding is that the oath you refer to was part of the old papal coronation ceremony where the Pope would be crowned with the triple tiara and carried around St. Peter's square in the sedei gestatoria with ostrich feather fans etc...
Pope John Paul II (Eternal rest grant unto him O Lord) followed the precedent set by his short lived predecessor John Paul I who absolutely refused to be crowned. +Benedict XVI has shown the same, or perhaps an even deeper aversion to the trappings of the papal monarchy. The Tiara has been stripped even from the Popes coat of arms. In its place he has a bishops mitre that does not appear to be any different from that worn by all western rite bishops. I believe that an oath prescribed is still sworn by the bishops of Rome to uphold the Catholic and Orthodox faith but most of the elaborate ceremony of the old days has been removed. Paul VI was the last pope to wear the Tiara and be crowned. At the conclusion of the Vatican Council he ceremonially stepped down from his throne and walked to the high alter where he placed the crown and never again consented to wear it. Benedict restored many of the traditions of the first millennium in his mass of installation.
18 posted on 07/05/2005 6:26:41 PM PDT by jec1ny (Adjutorium nostrum in nomine Domine Qui fecit caelum et terram.)
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To: Graves

The Papal Oath you link to is the "updated" version of the 11th century. Previously, it had included different material, including the anthametization of Honorius.


24 posted on 07/05/2005 8:55:16 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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