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To: murphE

You need to examine your attitude as well, Murph. Possibly, you are ignorant of the history of the Soviet Empire and its dissolution, and who did what, and with what result. Most likely, just like your schismatic sidekick, you simply troll the thread with little regard to logic or fact, looking to spead one calumny or another.

When a pagan or a protestant does it, anger toward the Church is their defining characteristic, and it can be reasoned with. Indiffirentist mentality of Cardinal Mahoney can also be reasoned with. When someone who imagines himself Catholic insults the memory of the Holy Father, civilized conversation is pointless, and even harmful.


71 posted on 06/25/2005 10:50:19 AM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex; sempertrad
You need to examine your attitude as well, Murph.

I'll take that from where it comes.

Possibly, you are ignorant of the history of the Soviet Empire and its dissolution, and who did what, and with what result.

Quite possibly nothing of the sort happened. Possibly it only put on a different mask and uniform and the players all remained the same. Maybe I'm wrong, prove it.

Most likely, just like your schismatic sidekick,

Most likely you can't win your argument with facts so you resort to slander. Neither I nor sempertrad are schismatic, no matter how many times you choose to assert this falsehood it remains a falsehood.

you simply troll the thread with little regard to logic or fact, looking to speedy one calumny or another.

projection the attribution of one's own ideas, feelings, or attitudes to other people or to objects; especially : the externalization of blame, guilt, or responsibility as a defense against anxiety.
Physician heal thyself.

I started this thread and I most certainly didn't ping you to it. Who is doing the trolling? But don't worry, you say whatever you want, only traditional Catholics get banned.

When someone who imagines himself Catholic

Who the heck do you think you are to imply anything about me? Padre Pio?

insults the memory of the Holy Father

You do this by spreading falsehoods about his legacy. I have done nothing of the sort.

civilized conversation is pointless,

and impossible for you it seems, for the reasons mentioned above. At least something we can agree on. So why are you posting on a thread I started if you can't keep your conversation civil? You need to examine that. Have a nice day.

75 posted on 06/25/2005 12:51:01 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: annalex

Its your illogical, dreamy-eyed romanticizing of memories which rejects the factual reality of this past pontificate. And that's far more harmful to his memory than any critical remarks I could ever make - Folks like you have got him "stomping up to Heaven" most likely telling God, "I believe that's my seat you're in.." Folks like me know that God doesn't judge souls based on the number of people who loved him in an undefined, vague worldly way. Looking at the reality compels prayers for his soul. Denying it runs the grave risk of leaving him hanging in great need of prayer.

Of course, in your "reality" encouraging others to sin - not once, but twice - and then using every possible opportunity to speak fondly of the "spirit" of these gravely offensive events, is a "blunder" akin to spilling one's milk.

Lastly, if you're going to post in a forum for Catholic discussion, as a Catholic, defending Catholicism, your distateful outbursts are quite harmful and a very poor reflection of the majority of Catholics who know how to control themselves.


76 posted on 06/25/2005 1:14:02 PM PDT by sempertrad ("Welcome to Knight Burger. What will... ye have?" - MST3K)
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