Skip to comments.
The use of the Cathedral by other faiths
TidingsOnline ^
| 06/10/05
| Rt. Rev. Alexei Smith
Posted on 06/23/2005 2:52:16 PM PDT by murphE
click here to read article
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20, 21-40, 41-60, 61-80 ... 101-104 next last
To: murphE; onyx; GipperGal
21
posted on
06/23/2005 11:52:40 PM PDT
by
kstewskis
("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big..." Jerry Fletcher)
To: Gerard.P; murphE
Anybody who opposes the goings-on mentioned in this article is just being hypocritical. In addition to the plethora of interfaith activities he participated in, the late Holy Father twice invited pagans to Assisi to break the 1st Commandment. When Mahoney engages in these types of things, everyone can clearly see it for what it is: synchronism and indifferentism and they rightly oppose him and these events. When the late Holy Father did the same types of things he is applauded for bringing people together to bring about a brotherhood of peace. How can anyone rail against Cdl Mahoney in one breath, and in the next condemn others who criticise the same activities hosted by the late Holy Father? How could JPII have been good and right about these things, and Mahoney terrible and wrong?
22
posted on
06/24/2005 7:04:47 AM PDT
by
sempertrad
("Welcome to Knight Burger. What will... ye have?" - MST3K)
To: sempertrad
Countdown to Neo-Catholic thread-derailment
10...9...8...
23
posted on
06/24/2005 8:07:11 AM PDT
by
te lucis
("For pity's sake, end the Council quickly." -Padre Pio)
Comment #24 Removed by Moderator
Comment #25 Removed by Moderator
To: sempertrad
I don't recall anyone who loved the late Pope supporting the Assisi blunder. There is much to love in John Paul II beside his errors in judgement. Mahoney, on the other hand, stands for nothing but heterodoxy, in this incident and in general.
26
posted on
06/24/2005 9:09:37 AM PDT
by
annalex
To: Siobhan
HOLY ECHMIADZIN
The Seat of the Catholicos of All Armenians
This, by the way, is the "grim air hangar"'s counterpart.
27
posted on
06/24/2005 9:15:02 AM PDT
by
annalex
To: annalex
By the time one gets to be pope, I would expect he'd know the 1st Commandment. I would expect he'd know that it is a sin to encourage sin.
The event mentioned in the above article is the entire message of the late Holy Father's pontificate come to life. Assisi I&II were not two "blunders" in an otherwise traditional, orthodox pontificate. He participated/hosted many, many similar events over the last 26 years.
And if JPII did not think the Cdl was guilty of general heterodoxy (made evident by getting the red hat and never having been disciplined), who are any of us to say otherwise?
28
posted on
06/24/2005 11:22:18 AM PDT
by
sempertrad
("Welcome to Knight Burger. What will... ye have?" - MST3K)
To: sempertrad
I think that both John Paul II and Mahoney got ecumenism wrong.
29
posted on
06/24/2005 11:45:36 AM PDT
by
annalex
To: annalex
But ecumenism was, above everything else, JPII's top priority. He was all about ecumenism.
I'd be careful if I were you. Saying JPII got anything "wrong" will get you in heap big trouble here. :-)
30
posted on
06/24/2005 12:24:04 PM PDT
by
sempertrad
("Welcome to Knight Burger. What will... ye have?" - MST3K)
To: sempertrad
No, ecumenism is what various Catholic schismatics like to beat him over the head with. The late Pope's legacy also includes defeat of Communist ideology, marginalization of the liberation theology, developing the theology of the body, and, timid as it was, resistance to sundry innovators in the church. Nor was his entire ecumenist effort wrong. His incessant travel, for example, made the world more aware of Catholicism and quite possibly stemmed the decline in vocations.
31
posted on
06/24/2005 12:33:56 PM PDT
by
annalex
To: kaehurowing
Re: "Disillusioned Episcopagans can at least "swim the Tiber." But where will Catholics swim to if the Catholic Church heads down the same path?"
Underground. We have to face the fact the True Church will be a remnant as Scripture describes. Christ asked "Will Faith be alive when I return"
Holding firm is the only option despite events and the whole world against us, it is the only option.
To: annalex
No, ecumenism is what various Catholic schismatics like to beat him over the head with.
Not sure who you're talking about or what they say which is akin to beating him over the head, but I notice that many Catholics utter not one peep over his ecumenical "blunders" or the paganistic spectacles that were most of his Masses, but they go absolutely postal when Mahoney does the very same things. Why? That's what I'm trying to figure out. That, and why we are free to make judgments about the Cdl when, by all accounts, JPII not only never judged likewise, but obviously approved of him.
His incessant travel, for example, made the world more aware of Catholicism and quite possibly stemmed the decline in vocations.
Was the world less aware of Catholicism before travel became easier?
All his incessant travel did was earn him worldly celebrity status. He was looked upon by the world as a spiritual and holy man. So is the Dali Lama. So is Billy Graham. But being able to recognize the Pope when you see him on TV hardly means that one is "more aware of Catholicism." Being aware of something doesn't mean one is aware of what exactly it is and means. And if we both agree that JPII "got ecumenism wrong" I imagine people the world over are considerably less aware of Catholic teachings then they were 26 years ago.
33
posted on
06/24/2005 1:50:40 PM PDT
by
sempertrad
("Welcome to Knight Burger. What will... ye have?" - MST3K)
To: sempertrad
You have a point about Mahoney not doing anything John Paul II did not do; in fact, Cardinal Mahoney returned a favor received by the late Pope in Echmiadzin.
John Paul's celebrity status is simply a reflection of love many people, and many non-Catholics, felt for him. Which is the best ecumenical policy. Also, it is degrading to simply call him a celebrity because he was a celebrity with, and because of, substance.
34
posted on
06/24/2005 1:58:59 PM PDT
by
annalex
To: murphE
Please, by all means. Why not just hand the keys over to the local Imam and be done with it. Considering the looks of that monstrosity, I'd actually be in favor of that.
35
posted on
06/24/2005 2:03:59 PM PDT
by
Antoninus
(Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
To: sempertrad
Unless you're a member of the Society of St. Pius I, I consider you a 'latinizer' and a follower of the radical Pope St. Leo.
36
posted on
06/24/2005 2:08:05 PM PDT
by
Antoninus
(Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
To: annalex
The late Pope's legacy also includes defeat of Communist ideology, I must have missed this. When was Communist ideology defeated and why hasn't anyone told China?
37
posted on
06/24/2005 3:18:22 PM PDT
by
murphE
(These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
To: murphE
It's dead in China as well.
38
posted on
06/24/2005 3:20:15 PM PDT
by
annalex
To: annalex
It's dead in China as well. Really. Tell that to the underground Church, being arrested, jailed and tortured. If it's dead in Russia, what happened to the KGB? When were the arrests and trials? What about all the political prisoners? When were they released? Boy you'd think at least a few of them would have been on Oprah by now.
39
posted on
06/24/2005 3:25:38 PM PDT
by
murphE
(These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
To: murphE
Communism is economic central planning. That is dead even in China. In all formerly communist countries Christianity is growing, including China.
I know the late Pope was not alone in transforming the world, but his contribution is among the greatest in late 20 century.
40
posted on
06/24/2005 3:35:42 PM PDT
by
annalex
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20, 21-40, 41-60, 61-80 ... 101-104 next last
Disclaimer:
Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual
posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its
management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the
exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson