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To: Antioch

Ah, isn't it lovely to bask in the sunshine of Muslim tolerance. One thing I will make clear though. There is a difference between the native Coptic Christians and small evangelical groups that have gone into Muslim countries to witness. The Copts don't evangelize and are persecuted and Evangelical Christians evangelize (how agressively, I don't know) and are persecuted.....so it really doesn't make a difference...a dhimmi is a dhimmi dhummy.
Part of me wants to criticize Evangelicals for their actions.....knowing the situation that exists in these places, what were you expecting? Hearts and flowers? I guess I don't have being martyred or persecuted on my agenda. All being said, it doesn't change the situation regarding tolerence in Islamic countries.


4 posted on 06/23/2005 9:00:20 AM PDT by brooklyn dave (Bring Down the Mullahcracy in Iran)
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To: brooklyn dave
The real difference is the Christian vs. Islamic perspective on martyrdom.

The Holy Bible of Jesus Christ commands, "Thou shalt not kill." Jesus said, "Blessed are the peacemakers." He commanded, "Turn the other cheek" and "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." The Christian New Testament tells us to "Pray for those who spitefully use you." The Old Testament warns us: Do not seek revenge. "Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord." Jesus himself was betrayed, imprisoned, unjustly accused, tortured, and crucified on a cross. Yet, he implored "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." His grieving disciples said not a word about seeking revenge.Then, each and every one of them died a martyr, having committed no crimes nor ever engaging in even one act of rebellion against those who oppressed them. The Koran, the Islamic scriptures, assures the Moslem that if he kills a Christian and dies as a martyr, he'll go directly to Heaven to be with Allah. Islam says, in essence-"Revenge! Kill for Allah, do him a service!"

Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (Q. 2:191), to murder them and treat them harshly (Q. 9:123), slay them (Q. 9:5), fight with them, (Q. 8: 65 ) even if they are Christians and Jews, humiliate them and impose on them a penalty tax (Q. 9: 29).

So, in essence, the Egyptian religious authorities happily tore out the fingernails and injected drugs into this Christian convert beleiving that God promises:

"They are to cohabit with demure virgins...as beauteous as corals and rubies...full-breasted maidens for playmates...in the gardens of delight.... They're to lie face to face on jewelled couches, and be serviced by immortal youths...young boys, their personal property, as comely as virgin pearls....[The Koran 55:56; 55:58; 78:33; 56:12; 52:16-17, 24; 56:35-38; 52:20]

One more reason to....

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8 posted on 06/23/2005 9:48:03 AM PDT by Antioch (Flannery O'Connor: “evil is not a problem to be solved, but a mystery to be endured”)
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