[blue-duncan]

From a glance at your references it is easy to see why you do not and cannot and will not understand what Buggman is trying to say. You are reading him through the lenses of Realized Eschatology and Process Theology. Your references, Jeremias and his student Perrin, are disciples of C.H.Dodd, the dean of Realized Eschatology and liberal Kingdom theory. The only conservative writer you cite is Beasley-Murray.

[bluepistolero]

They have nothing to do with Process theology. I think you have confused Dodd with Cobb. Dodd was a Presbyterian.