[PetroniusMaximus]

(Sorry - I missed this)

***But would you not agree that once the traditional male-breadwinner-female-homemaker family is destroyed, the demand for the state as...***

Yes I would. I have just grown to suspect all forms of conspiratorial thinking because I have seen how impossibly inept humans are at pulling things off on a large scale. I think the conspiracy in on a different plane - the spiritual plane.

[annalex]

Larry King once expressed it very well. "There is no left wing conspiracy. We don't sit and plot".

The conspiracy is in the immediate understanding of the goals and values of someone one never sat down and talked to, based solely on vague team identification. Ask 3 leftist to plot a bake sale and they'll fail miserably. But ask 3 leftists any sex- or family-related question, and there is an amazing level of unrehearsed unanimity.