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To: Romulus
Not "impose", sempertrad. "Propose".

im-pose:
1. To establish or apply as compulsory; levy: impose a tax. 2. To apply or make prevail by or as if by authority: impose a peace settlement.

Did Our Lord not want to "establish or apply as compulsory" His Church? Did He not have the "authority" to do this? Did He want His Church to "prevail"?

If the Second Vatican Council was, as many say, doctrinal, and thus requires our obedience, did it not impose upon Catholic States to give up on the principle of only recognizing the Catholic religion?
33 posted on 06/10/2005 9:42:29 AM PDT by sempertrad ("I can't show my face in there...after that 'zah' incident..." - MST3K)
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To: sempertrad

Christianity is not Islam.


34 posted on 06/10/2005 10:06:07 AM PDT by Romulus (Der Inn fließt in den Tiber.)
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To: sempertrad
If the Second Vatican Council was, as many say, doctrinal, and thus requires our obedience, did it not impose upon Catholic States to give up on the principle of only recognizing the Catholic religion?

Vatican II actually didn't do that. The Spanish bishops got amendments into the text that weakly reaffirm the traditional teaching about State recognition of Catholicism ("Religious freedom ... leaves untouched traditional Catholic doctrine on the moral duty of men and societies toward the true religion and toward the one Church of Christ"). Those that had been pushing for secularization then simply ignored the letter of the Council and ran with its 'spirit'.

42 posted on 06/10/2005 6:38:31 PM PDT by gbcdoj (For if thou wilt now hold thy peace, the Jews shall be delivered by some other occasion)
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To: Gerard.P

ping


43 posted on 06/10/2005 6:46:24 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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