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To: bornacatholic
*Scripture, Tradition, Magisterium declares that no man, even one in league with the devil, can destroy the foundation God established and the modern Popes are not ones rational beings can claim are in league with the devil. Even IF the Pope were in league with the devil you would still be under his authority ...

I NEVER made the claim that anything could destrot God's Church.

Now, you can claim the Pope is a schizophrenic, you can claim he is a heretic, you can claim he is trying to destroy Traditon, you can claim he is trying to reconcile truth and error, you can claim he is trying to reconcile orthodoxy and heresy, and it still doesn't matter. He has authority and you must be obedient.

I NEVER said disobedience was appropriate even if I believe we have a bad Pope. Obedience is key, where did you get the notion that I didn't subscribe to that?

Brother, give it up. The path you are on leads to perdition. Trust in Jesus. Trust in His promises. Trust Jesus has sent the 2nd Person of the Holy Trinity to guide the Church in all truth.

I have NO idea what it is that you think I need to give up. I do trust in God. But Christ never promised that the Church would be free of Satanic trials such as heresy. St. Athanasius is a case in point.

154 posted on 06/12/2005 2:09:54 PM PDT by TradicalRC (I'd rather live in a Christian theocracy than a secular democracy.)
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To: TradicalRC
I have NO idea what it is that you think I need to give up. I do trust in God. But Christ never promised that the Church would be free of Satanic trials such as heresy.

*Do you think the Magisterium heretical? The Pope?

162 posted on 06/13/2005 10:58:55 AM PDT by bornacatholic (I am blessed to have lived under great modern Popes. Thanks be to God.)
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