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To: Rosary
Your post is pretty much impossible to understand. Could you try using paragraphs and actually replying to what I said?

No Catholic can legitimately ask (as if doubting) "Is the Church still Catholic? Has She lost the true faith? ... Can we count on today's Church to lead us to salvation?" All Catholics believe that the Church is one, holy, Catholic and apostolic, the pillar and foundation of truth, and the divinely-ordained universal and indispensible means of salvation. We assert that "outside the Church there is no salvation" precisely because it is only and always within the Church (for where Peter is, there is the Church, and where the Church is, there is no death, but everlasting life - St. Ambrose) that the authentic practice of the true faith and the Christian Sacraments are to be found. This can never change or we would have to confess Christ as failing in his promises. Did He Himself not say "I am with you for all days, even unto the consummation of the world" and "Upon this rock, I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it" and "Simon, Simon, Satan hath desired to have you to sift you like wheat. I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not, and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren"? For it is written in the book of the prophet Daniel, "the stone that struck the statue became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth ... in the days of those kingdoms, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that shall never by destroyed, and his kingdom shall not be delivered up to another people: and it shall break in pieces, and shall consume all these kingdoms: and itself shall stand for ever".

My friend, the Catholic Church is the Mystical Body of Our Lord. Never can she lose the faith, never can she fail in Catholicity (for this is a note of the church), never can she fail to lead her children to salvation.

Certainly the loving Mother is spotless in the Sacraments by which she gives birth to and nourishes her children; in the faith which she has always preserved inviolate; in her sacred laws imposed on all; in the evangelical counsels which she recommends; in those heavenly gifts and extraordinary grace through which with inexhaustible fecundity, she generates hosts of martyrs, virgins and confessors. (Pius XII, Mystici Corporis Christi, §66)

133 posted on 06/10/2005 8:57:50 PM PDT by gbcdoj (For if thou wilt now hold thy peace, the Jews shall be delivered by some other occasion)
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To: gbcdoj

I'm sorry to have to inform you , you are way behind in this debate.
40 yrs. the Catholic Church has undergone these "changes"..for the worst!
When the Mass changed,the Faith was almost
extinguished in the Catholic Church!
Answer me this First...have you watched this video???? If not there is no way you could understand or even debate the issue!
I have !


151 posted on 06/12/2005 11:03:08 AM PDT by Rosary (Pray the Rosary daily and wear the brown scapular)
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To: gbcdoj

Our Lady of La Salette, who appeared to two simple children in France in 1864..(and this is an approved Catholic Church Apparition just as is Fatima...) said and warned in her message and I quote,"In the Year 1864,Lucifer together with a large number of demons will be unloosed from hell,to put an end to Faith little by little..."and what is the biggest part of the Catholic Faith??? The Mass and the Seven Sacraments!


152 posted on 06/12/2005 11:11:05 AM PDT by Rosary (Pray the Rosary daily and wear the brown scapular)
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