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To: dangus
Yes, but the wine was not held in a noble substance.

That is forbidden, but does not invalidate. A judgment of invalidity is serious business and should not be lightly undertaken by a layman -- on whom the burden of proof rests.

36 posted on 06/02/2005 1:14:32 PM PDT by Romulus (Der Inn fließt in den Tiber.)
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To: Romulus

I believe that if the very act of transubstantiation would cause desecration to the Eucharist, no transubstantiation occurs. Since an ignoble material inherently desecrates the Eucharist...

But you do make a correct point. I should state myself more carefully: Based on Pyro's description, there is grave concern that such a mass is invalid, and hence it is prudent not to receive communion


38 posted on 06/02/2005 1:20:44 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Romulus

If an ordained priest said the required words over the host/wine, then it's a valid Eucharist. Method of distribution does not reverse-transubstantiate the body and blood of Christ back to wheat. If it was not wheat, but rice (or some other concoction), then it would be invalid.


45 posted on 06/02/2005 1:51:24 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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