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To: ninenot; Romulus
Thanks, ninenot. You said what I had wanted to say.

Rom, its you who has been very patient and explained things in a thoughtful manner. Thanks much! :-)

I guess my question is: What distinguishes the profane from the sacred? Is it melody? Obviously, the Psalms could be profaned if you tried to 'rap' them, but I'm sure we both agree that Shubert's 'Ave' is hardly paganistic.
256 posted on 06/04/2005 10:12:42 AM PDT by sempertrad ("I'm feeling fair today; one notch below mediocre" - My Husband)
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To: sempertrad

The separation between 'profane' and 'sacred' lies FIRST in the text. May seem obvious, but that's the first screening.

Next we use connotation. This is a little more amorphous--but in essence, if the style of the music is closely associated with the "non-worship" world, then it's likely 'profane,' and not appropriate.

It's sort of like some other standards--if the 'average' man on the street thinks "American Idol" when hearing the music, it's profane. "Idol" isn't always the question, however--sometimes it is much more subtle. I've heard very good progressive jazz played in the Church. It's simply wrong--and the individual who did it SHOULD know better--but that's 'profane.'

Hassler's Missa Secunda's Kyrie is definitely a dance tune, but one has to listen very carefully to hear that--thus the 'average man' would not think of it as "profane."

The concept of "sacred time, sacred space, sacred language, sacred music" is very useful. In fact, the church and all that goes on inside the church should not be 'of this world.'


260 posted on 06/04/2005 10:56:52 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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