To: JohnnyZ
There are things you have to believe as Catholics...If you were to name one of these specific items, I'll bet I could find a priest, bishop or pope who contradicted it...
173 posted on
06/01/2005 1:41:06 PM PDT by
Onelifetogive
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To: Onelifetogive
If you were to name one of these specific items, I'll bet I could find a priest, bishop or pope who contradicted it... It's possible. But that would make them an apostate or heretic or something, I'm a little sketchy on the exact terminology. You're free to start with the whole Nicene Creed and try to find one who denies it. We'd all be interested to know of any priest who would, believe me.
But your larger approach is bizarre -- as if the heresy of one "Catholic" would invalidate Catholic belief?
I really wonder about you ....
175 posted on
06/01/2005 1:53:29 PM PDT by
JohnnyZ
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To: Onelifetogive
Re: "If you were to name one of these specific items, I'll bet I could find a priest, bishop or pope who contradicted it..."
Big deal. Do you think Judas believed when he sold Christ for 30 pieces of silver? There have always been Priests, Bishops and Laity who have believed otherwise. God grants us freewill and not all people who want to teach another doctrine has the honor to resign their post when they are so obviously opposed to the doctrine. Look at the Episcopalians for the love of Pete. They had a Lambeth Conference that upheld the Traditional teaching on Homosexuality and undermined it the very first chance they got. The Church of England is allowing their Priests to marry their boyfriends but they have to stay celibate //wink wink//
You have Baptist ministers who advocate civil unions but they still take the paycheck.
I will not hold these wayward ministers against your Church if you agree to the same. The issue comes in when the doctrine of the Church is under review and subject to change. And it is here the Protestant is at far greater risk. Consider birth control, where was your denomination on this in 1955? Chances are real good they would be appalled at the suggestion they would teach something other than the notion it is intrinsically evil. The separation of the purpose of sex from the pleasure was a road most Protestant Churches would have found unquestionable wrong.
I could give a long list of such changes in beliefs (such as divorce) in Protestant Churches going back in our lifetimes or even generations. There was a time many Protestant Churches would find the notion of rebelling against a King unChristian. Times change I guess but the Truths of God are not subject to change. All the "Christian" Churches teach this but not all act upon this in the same manner.
There are those who say the Catholic Church is behind the times. Well God help us all if they ever succeed in catching up.
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