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To: Dominick

"Crucifixion was "good enough" for Jesus, I think not. Christ was innocent, and was killed unjustly."

You proved my point, Jesus was innocent and the tried and convicted are guilty...the Bible in many places calls for them to be put to death .

"Scum? people are scum? " what else are John Wayne Gacyee and Jeffrey Dahamer, or the two snipers who terroirsed Washing DC by taking random fatal shots from the trunk of a car.. or ted bundy, the BKT, the Green River,,, etc etc arent scum, then what the hell are they ??? Childs of God?


116 posted on 06/01/2005 10:23:16 AM PDT by aspiring.hillbilly (!.....ripped from the headlines.....!)
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To: aspiring.hillbilly
what else are John Wayne Gacyee and Jeffrey Dahamer, or the two snipers who terroirsed Washing DC by taking random fatal shots from the trunk of a car.. or ted bundy, the BKT, the Green River,,, etc etc arent scum, then what the hell are they ???

I don't know if they are in Hell, and neither do you. Suppose that they came to Christ, and were baptized, and earnestly rejoined Christ? Would you deny them Heaven? Suppose that in another year, they would come to God, but didn't because they were killed? Are you the arbiter of Eternal Life and Death?

You missed something in the Gospel, Jesus showed us the authorities did not have any real authority except that was given by God, as they worst they could do, crucifixion, was impotent.

Vengeance is Mine, says the Lord. If they committed those crimes then they should pay, but I would prefer they change, they come to find God, and rejoin the human race in Heaven where we all belong. None of us deserve Heaven, we all merit Hell, through the Mercy of God, we can enjoy Heaven. Man was not made for Hell.

Childs of God?

Yes they are children of God, were they not born of Mothers that could love them, and are they not loved by God? If God loves Gacy, who did horrible crimes on other people, they shouldn't I? Shall I hate God because God loves these murderers? Shall I prefer Hell, because Dahmer may have been admitted to Heaven? What should I do if I come across Hitler who could have made a secret and honest conversion 15 minutes before his death? I admit that seeing those men in heaven is a amazingly huge long shot, but this is the stuff of miracles of God, and is not impossible.

The Church teaches the preference that governments should have, but also tells them in some cases that Death as a Penal institution can be applied in a correct manner. My speculations aside, your contention about the Church's teaching is based on a fallacy.
126 posted on 06/01/2005 10:44:15 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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