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To: phatus maximus
Are you honestly telling the rest of us non Catholics out here that if we don't believe that Mary was not free from original sin we are CONDEMNED?

Pope Bl. Pius IX, Apostolic Constitution Ineffabilis Deus, December 8, 1854. That is the teaching of the Catholic Church.

Reread John 3:16, perhaps then the truth shall set you free.

For God so loved the world, as to give his only begotten Son: that whosoever believeth in him may not perish, but may have life everlasting.

I'm missing the whole "the Blessed Virgin was not redeemed and cleansed from original sin by Christ" bit here. Is that an addition in the Protestant Bible?

Please reference Romans, chapters 3, 4 and 5.

Nothing contradictory to Florence in there. Please reference Daniel 4:24: "Wherefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable to thee, and redeem thou thy sins with alms, and thy iniquities with works of mercy to the poor: perhaps he will forgive thy offences" and Tobit 4:11-12: "For alms deliver from all sin, and from death, and will not suffer the soul to go into darkness. Alms shall be a great confidence before the most high God, to all them that give it".

44 posted on 05/29/2005 6:14:20 PM PDT by gbcdoj (Lord, to whom shall we go? Thou hast the words of eternal life.)
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To: gbcdoj

Please show me where ORIGINAL sin is ever removed, ie...our sinful nature.

Paul explains very clearly to everyone but a Roman Catholic that we still struggle with the sinful nature that we inherited from Adam even after we are saved.

Mary never had her original sin removed. She was still a sinful human being. But, she was forgiven because of her faith in Christ, and the Holy Spirit allowed her to gradually resist and reject sin.


103 posted on 05/30/2005 1:57:18 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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