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To: Kolokotronis
The link seems to indicate it may have been some sort of Old Believer Liturgy.

If you read through the text, you will find the Liturgy in service books from Greek monasteries, and with commentaries written on it from earlier on before the Old Believer schism.

Hermann, most of us Orthodox can quote +John Chrysostomos nearly chapter and verse. We know Who does the consecrating at the Divine Liturgy. My comment was direced to various Roman commentaries wherein it is advanced that the priest stands in the place of Christ in the Liturgy.

"The priest, in the role of Christ, pronounces these words"

Those words of St. John neatly summarize the Roman belief.

194 posted on 05/31/2005 10:15:48 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker; Agrarian

Hermann, why is it everytime you show up on these threads you want to play onemanship? Orthodox people ask questions and get, as I did from Theofilo, a concise and polite answer and then you come in with an attitude which quite honestly bespeaks precisely the kind of triumphalism and "submit, submit, submit" attitude we've heard from Rome for hundreds of years. What exactly was your point in bringing up some Liturgy which on Google has exactly 15 hits and none in Greek? In fact there are only 113 in any language, most of which have nothing to do with Liturgy. In any event this Liturgy is refered to as an Old Sarum usage from England. Thus far we've had a fine and enlightening discussion here. Please don't poison the well. Mostof us here have no problem with disgreeing on various points. Our purpose is to try to understand each others' beliefs in some apparently fine but in fact rather basic areas, not win debating points.


200 posted on 05/31/2005 10:39:50 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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