[biblewonk]

Yeah cause who cares what the actual words say. It's all about 2000 years of tradition isn't it.

[BlackElk]

It is about the Catholic (large C) Church founded by Jesus Christ Himself upon Simon bar Jonah whom he renamed Peter and NOT about whatever spin each "reformed" Tom, Dick and Harriet chooses to pridefully apply to the Scriptures which we passed to your forebears when they were founding their "reformed" churches a bit less than five hundred years ago because of their disagreements with the use of the keys provided to Peter and his successors by Jesus Christ.

Every time you are tempted to declare upon what you think "the words say" in Scripture, remember the proper preface: what those who are "reformed" LIKE TO THINK the words say.

The Catholic Church is as wonderful a Church as you would expect once you recognize that it is divinely instituted among fallen men. Instead of attacking it, you should come home to the Church of your ancestors. If not, not. You have the same free will as the rest of us for good or for ill.

In any event, unless and until you are a practicing and believing Roman Catholic, MYOB.