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I am amazed by someone who claims to be a Christian and doesn't want to know the secrets of the Bible. Jesus made it clear that these things were hidden from the profane but would be opened to any who had faith and willingness to know.

It IS nice that simple faith and belief in Christ is all that is required however. Even the dull get to go to heaven.

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Someone earlier quoted the 'works' scriptures ... evidently trying to make the case that faith was not sufficient. Churches are full of these people. Sheep beaters. Works works works and always pointing the finger at those who do not work enough. I've seen so many driven from the Gospel by these people. I wish they would tell us how we, whose righteousness is as filthy (menstrual) rags, can work our way into Christ's favor? My experience is that loving God does produce works. They just happen. Those who preach a works doctrine are like Moses when he slew the Egyptian. They need thirty years in the wilderness to think things through. Maybe actually hear the Word of God with spiritual ears instead of their own willful personality.

Someone earlier quoted the 'works' scriptures ... evidently trying to make the case that faith was not sufficient. Churches are full of these people. Sheep beaters. Works works works and always pointing the finger at those who do not work enough. I've seen so many driven from the Gospel by these people. I wish they would tell us how we, whose righteousness is as filthy (menstrual) rags, can work our way into Christ's favor?

Boy, are you ever right!!! That is my biggest annoyance, I can be right in the midst of leading someone to Christ on the internet, and some "christian" comes up and says "well you know faith without works is dead, and Jesus will say many will hear Lord Lord" etc, and they try to actually blow the whole thing. I just don't understand "christians" that want works over grace

My experience is that loving God does produce works

Exactly. I'm doing this because I love God, not because I'm trying to get into heaven. I'm already going

Thank you for the post and reply, I appreciate it :)

My experience is that loving God does produce works.

Amen! THAT is the result of being "saved." Grace is the ticket, but the love for God produces works. That's what earns 'crowns.' Even those who are weak in the Faith are still saved, but they won't have many crowns.