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To: reformedcrat
Civil disobedience is only allowed Biblically under two strict circumstances:

You have shown where it is allowed, but where is it "only" allowed under these "two strict circumstances"?

Everyone on this thread understands that civil disobedience is allowed for the two given reasons. What I and connectthedots doubt, is that the Bible strictly forbids it for other reasons as well.

19 posted on 05/16/2005 10:26:13 AM PDT by Between the Lines (We are enabled to see the Lord at work if our eyes and our hearts are open." - George W. Bush)
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To: Between the Lines; reformedcrat; ksen; connectthedots

***Everyone on this thread understands that civil disobedience is allowed for the two given reasons. What I and connectthedots doubt, is that the Bible strictly forbids it for other reasons as well.***

Look, I have neither agreed nor disagreed with you for the simple fact that you are asking me to exhaustively eliminate every single instance of Civil Disobedience by Biblical example.

It would be far easier if either you or dots would simply provide an example of Civil Disobedience which you think the Bible would not forbid. Obviously, you seem to disagree with Steve Camps statement, so it would be nice if you would actually proved some examples of things you seem to think would show his statement to be false.


21 posted on 05/16/2005 12:09:10 PM PDT by thePilgrim
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To: Between the Lines; reformedcrat; thePilgrim
Everyone on this thread understands that civil disobedience is allowed for the two given reasons. What I and connectthedots doubt, is that the Bible strictly forbids it for other reasons as well.

I thought that was blatantly obvious. Camp should have at least included circumstances when the government abuses the rights of other citizens as an example when christians xhould get involved, even more so than if we are the victims. I could come up with many more examples.

Camp seems to be in the camp of Cal Thomas and MacArthur, who believe that Christians should not atempt to change the world by getting involved in 'causes'. This is one reason I have very little regard for MacArthur or Cal Thomas.

An excellent book about getting involved is "Why You Can't Stay Silent" by Tom Minnery of Focus on the Family. An older and much better known book is Chuck Colson's "Kingdoms in Conflict".

26 posted on 05/16/2005 1:07:43 PM PDT by connectthedots
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