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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
The “next item” was his having gone to Our Lady of Atonement Parish – that’s what they called a “Catholic-Lutheran joint parish,” where they have a priest on one end of the altar and a Lutheran minister on the other, and they go back and forth. I asked, “What did you do over there?” and he answered, “We concelebrated liturgy.” “What does that mean?” I asked, “Did you and the Lutheran minister say Mass together? What did you do?”

Mission - Mission of the Atonement
Lutheran and Catholic congregation
7400 SW Scholls Ferry Rd., Beaverton, OR 97008
503-646-1344

I must confess I have never heard of a Lutheran-Catholic Congregation before.

36 posted on 05/14/2005 10:21:46 AM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: sockmonkey

It was new to me also.


40 posted on 05/14/2005 10:40:37 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: sockmonkey; Canticle_of_Deborah; St. Johann Tetzel; GrannyML
http://motaspirit.org/services.htm

According to this, this type of Mass is permitted, by a hair's breadth. Lets look at the other items this disincardinated Priest testifies to:

I remember coming home from meeting with him on one of those occasions. I said, “You know, that man isn’t Catholic. The Archbishop is not Catholic!” I was telling the whole parish this.

At this point, this man who was incardinated by the Bishop, violated his oath of obedience. It didn't go the way he wanted. If he had misgivings, he should have not badgered his Bishop, he could have asked Rome, it was disobedient to conclude he was not Catholic on the basis of the answer he did NOT get.

You will go to the University and take their ‘Credo’ course” (which was an updating in theology). But I said “No, No.” I said, like the boys said when it was time to go to Vietnam: “Hell no, I won’t go! No thanks.” So he said, “Then I’ll send you to a monastery for your sabbatical, and I will draw up a course of studies for you. You will have a private mentor.” I said, “No, I do not need a guru.” Finally, he told me to go ahead and do what I wanted.

Again the Bishop is not only his temporal supervisor, he also leads his Spiritual formation, and here is the Priest saying no to the Archbishop, for a lawful order of taking course work.

When I went back to see him, after the sabbatical was over, he told me that, because I had said the Latin Mass in “excommunicated” chapels, mainly Portland and Veneta [Oregon], he could no longer use my services. So I said, “Okay. You do what you have to do.

Thats right, Priests from SSPX chapels are suspended, did he preach the Archbishop was not Catholic there?

But you’re going to have to tie me up in chains to stop me from offering the Latin Mass.” He threatened to suspend me if I didn’t stop.

NO this isn't the case, it was because he acted with a suspended organization. Leaving a lot of detail out in this "testimony" attacks it's validity .

I got up and walked out the door and went home

Well before this he left the service of the Church, when he broke his vow to his Archbishop, and to the Church itself. Some people need excuses. Is this the entirety of the allegations against Archbishp Levada? If I can succinctly state them, a Priest of the SSPX says he was tossed out of his post. This was also almost 20 years ago.
145 posted on 05/15/2005 5:23:41 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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