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To: Dominick

So are you claiming that Popes are irresistible?

If so, can you point to a doctrine that teaches this?

By the way, Where does it say a Pope develops doctrine?

Also, the Holy Spirit does not suspend a Pope's free will.

I suggest you read up on Paschal II.

And John XXII.


197 posted on 05/16/2005 9:02:35 AM PDT by Gerard.P (The lips of liberals drip with honey while their hands drip with blood--Bishop Williamson)
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To: Gerard.P
I suggest you read my post, follow the link and answer your own questions. On issues of Church governance, the Pope is the Supreme Authority, if you "resist" him, even if you think he has "destroyed" the Church, then you simply don't understand how Vatican I stated dogmatically how a Pope can't act in that manner.

In a sense you resist the Holy Spirit, who makes all this possible.

In a more temporal sense, the Pope is Catholic, because that is exactly what the Pope presides over.

St. Augustin:
"We believe in the holy Church, that is, the Catholic Church; for heretics and schismatics call their own congregations churches. But heretics violate the faith itself by a false opinion about God; schismatics, however, withdraw from fraternal love by hostile separations, although they believe the same things we do. Consequently, neither heretics nor schismatics belong to the Catholic Church; not heretics, because the Church loves God, and not schismatics, because the Church loves neighbor" (Faith and Creed 10:21 [A.D. 393]).

Who is schismatic? One definition is anyone who denies the Pope can govern over him, and must be resisted. I would say thats pretty schismatic.
199 posted on 05/16/2005 9:39:20 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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