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To: Gerard.P; Dominick

"Do not allow yourselves to be deceived by the cunning statements of those who persistently claim to wish to be with the Church, to love the Church, to fight so that people do not leave Her... But judge them by their works. If they despise the shepherds of the Church and even the Pope, if they attempt all means of evading their authority in order to elude their directives and judgments..., then about which Church do these men mean to speak? Certainly not about that established on the foundations of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus Himself as the cornerstone (Eph. 2:20)." - St. Pius X, Allocution of May 10, 1909

"If one loves the Pope, one does not stop to ask the precise limits to which this duty of obedience extends… one does not seek to restrict the domain within which he can or should make his wishes felt; one does not oppose to the Pope’s authority that of others, however learned they may be, who differ from him. For however great their learning, they must be lacking in holiness, for there can be no holiness in dissension from the Pope. Yet there are priests – a considerable number of them – who submit the word of the Pope to their private judgement and who, with unheard-of audacity, make their obedience to the Roman Pontiff conditional upon such personal judgement." - St. Pius X, Allocution of 18 September, 1912


196 posted on 05/16/2005 8:47:52 AM PDT by gbcdoj (Lord, to whom shall we go? Thou hast the words of eternal life.)
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To: gbcdoj

Both of those quotes can be applied to the current heirarchy. B16 is interested in wanting to be only known as the Bishop of Rome. This could be an indication of the mentality that Pius X warned of. Also his writings about the reduction of the Church was also condemned by Pius X when he referred to those that would want the Church to return to Poverty.

Don't think those law settlements weren't hoped for in order to bankrupt the Church.

I believe Levada's old diocese went bankrupt.


The post conciliar Popes have done a marvelous job evading the authority of their offices.

From Leo's prayer to St. Michael in the long form:

"These most crafty enemies have filled and inebriated with gall and bitterness the Church, the spouse of the immaculate Lamb, and have laid impious hands on her most sacred possessions. In the Holy Place itself, where has been set up the See of the most holy Peter and the Chair of Truth for the light of the world, they have raised the throne of their abominable impiety, with the iniquitous design that when the Pastor has been struck, the sheep may be scattered."


198 posted on 05/16/2005 9:09:01 AM PDT by Gerard.P (The lips of liberals drip with honey while their hands drip with blood--Bishop Williamson)
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