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To: Mershon

Ya know, change in certain areas (not dogma, of course) isn't always good or bad. Besides, if we trust the Holy Spirit is guiding the Magisterium, and we do or should, as I understand things, then shouldn't we trust them enough to see changes such as the ones prescribed in action?

Granted I'm new to all of this with a LOT to learn--but I still love a good argument:)


34 posted on 05/12/2005 4:19:14 PM PDT by TheStickman (If a moron becomes senile how can you tell?)
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To: TheStickman

If the reason for promoting this were the same as the Eastern-rites reasoning, then I would have no problem with making it earlier. However, Sinkspur and many others in the Novus Ordo establishment have an underlying agenda to push.

St. Thomas Aquinas gives some very poignant answers as to why the Roman rite (which we ARE the Roman rite, which has never had a history of bowing or raising our hands during prayer in its history; these are Eastern-rite customs importanted into the Latin (Roman rite) liturgy has conferred its sacraments as it has.

Here is an article to begin with. It is a little deep, but you wandered into these waters, so it is time to begin to tread water quickly! :) http://www.franciscan-archive.org/apologetica/inerrant.html

The magisterium of the Church has the duty to hand down the Deposit of Faith to us. This "handing on" is called tradition and Tradition. Those who have changed the many "traditions" the past 40 years have done so to destroy the Faith, intended or not. And just because "traditions" (NOT Tradition) can change, does not mean there are good reasons for doing so. The modernists have NEVER given us any good reasons from a theological perspective (turned toward God) for doing so.

Like I said, I love the Eastern liturgies and the Eastern customs. But just like Pope John Paul II has told them to return to their Eastern customs (like dropping the Filioque in the Creed!), I would like the same principles applied to the Latin (Roman) Rite. Let's return to our traditions and customs.

Here is another article for you when you have finished the first. http://www.franciscan-archive.org/apologetica/incommut.html


66 posted on 05/13/2005 8:41:06 AM PDT by Mershon
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