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To: DouglasKC
Just for the record: Eastern Christianity refers to those who died as being "asleep in the Lord." To the Eastern (Orthodox) phronema or mindset, the only source of life is God, not our soul. God is the only true and sole Existence. We exist because of Him and not in spite of Him. God breathed the life into us (Gen 2:7):

Here, again, the word "soul" is translated into English from the Hebrew and Greek terms described in the article -- but the meaning is that by breathing His breath into Adam, man came to life. Thus physical death occurs when that "life force" leaves the body and either goes back to God or doesn't.

Eastern Christianity teaches that God does not reject the soul, but rather that the soul rejects God. If the "soul" is God's breath, then it certainly cannot die, for everything of God is eternal, and "life force" is no different. Thus, souls that reject God at the moment of death, eternally condemn themselves to that separation forever.

16 posted on 05/06/2005 9:05:21 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
Here, again, the word "soul" is translated into English from the Hebrew and Greek terms described in the article -- but the meaning is that by breathing His breath into Adam, man came to life. Thus physical death occurs when that "life force" leaves the body and either goes back to God or doesn't.
Eastern Christianity teaches that God does not reject the soul, but rather that the soul rejects God. If the "soul" is God's breath, then it certainly cannot die, for everything of God is eternal, and "life force" is no different. Thus, souls that reject God at the moment of death, eternally condemn themselves to that separation forever.

Normally souls die:

Jam 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

Eze 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

Psa 116:8 For thou hast delivered my soul from death, mine eyes from tears, and my feet from falling.

20 posted on 05/06/2005 9:25:44 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: kosta50
Eastern Christianity teaches that God does not reject the soul, but rather that the soul rejects God. If the "soul" is God's breath, then it certainly cannot die, for everything of God is eternal, and "life force" is no different. Thus, souls that reject God at the moment of death, eternally condemn themselves to that separation forever.

But the "life force", God's breath, is clearly NOT the soul in the scripture you quoted.

Man BECAME a living soul, AFTER the breath of life (spirit), was breathed into him. I agree, the spirit goes back to God that gave it, but the man, the living soul, dies.

A problem is that many interchange soul and spirit. But just this one scripture shows that they are NOT the same. Men are not given souls. They are souls, living beings, lives. The spirit is not a living being, it is the anima, the power used by God to start and continue life. Souls die. They are not immortal.

21 posted on 05/06/2005 9:42:13 PM PDT by DameAutour
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To: kosta50

That is also my papis understandig. Alas, too may Western Romans get caught up debating Protestants and slip into some Protestant paradigms.


81 posted on 06/27/2005 7:51:31 PM PDT by dangus
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