Posted on 05/04/2005 7:58:31 AM PDT by pro610
Yeah, yeah, yeah....same ole anti-Warren gripes.
Actually yes. It always has been. The Bible warns us continually to be on guard for false teachings.
So you think it's OK to cater to people's flesh?
The essence of the Communist/Hegelian Dialectic!
Uh... well it's not like you were adding anything.
"your opinions are bizarre. What denomination are you?"
I guess that's not ad hominem though because it comes from you... d'oh!
I think we've been through the Warren bashing top to bottom, and that you aren't going to say anything new.
Boiled down, you're gonna say you don't like him, that he's evil, that yada, yada, yada.
I'm gonna say that thousands come to Christ, that I like him, that he's not evil, yada, yada, yada...
Been there; done that.
I figured a statement based on Scripture would screw you up.
Um so have you actually examined his doctrine?
"Pretty tenuous connection between Blanchard and Warren, one comment on one page of an unauthorized biography from the same guy that wrote a bio on Paris Hilton.
"Stellar research, no doubt."
Next thing you know, Isikoff will report that Blanchard flushed a copy of "The Purpose-Driven Life" down the toilet.
Yep. Read his books and a couple of his articles and his church website.
Seems OK to me.
You have such a sweet gentle spirit for a handmaiden of the Lord.
Bless your heart.
Denial of efficacy of the Word
Arminianism
Denial of depravity of Man
minimization of sin and need for repentance (e.g. turning AWAY from all that you valued before)
That's a large chunk of what real salvation is about. Without it who knows what you've got. IF people are being saved, (and I have my doubts) it is IN SPITE of his teaching, and not because of his teaching. I've read through his books and he is the muddiest Christian writer I've ever read. If I had an agenda I could use his stuff to justify it, quite easily. It's just like beauraucrat-speak. However Christ did not EVER dilute his teaching to suit his crowd. Many stopped following him because of that. If he had softened his teaching to become 'seeker sensitive' he would not have been crucified.
It's not just Rick Warren. Rick Warren has only put new clothes on an old fad called the "church growth movement." He's just the newest guru trying to make it work.
But, that's ok. Let him have his global PEACE plan and usher in the antichrist. It's your hide, not mine.
Frau Steucher.......hweeeeeeheeheeheehee
It's Frau Blucher...
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So one of his sins is being an Arminian?
I'm an arminian.
Most of historic Christianity, past & present is Arminian, whether called that or not.
But...I don't want to argue that here. Start a thread on it (about the one zillionth), and we'll talk about it.
well, forgive me. :>)
Isn't it the thought that counts?
(and who's Steucher?)
Then I guess you never studied doctrine either. I guess you must not need it to be an Army Chaplain. I applaud your service but I don't applaud your lack of Christian discernment.
Yeah, we chaplains were just weasley little arminians who followed soldiers around on battlefields for the hell of it.
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