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To: Kolokotronis; Grey Ghost II; St. Johann Tetzel; Piers-the-Ploughman; AAABEST; ...
I would reply, however, the document was formulated so as to deny input from the Roman Rite faithful raised to believe a non-Catholic must accept the Sacred Dogma of His Church before they could sit at a table and write a declaration which would dare attempt to nulify/compromise the bedrock beliefs of The One True Faith.

As of now I take very strong exception to the heartless utilization of a meaningless marketing term employed by these supposed men of God. The 'launch' of a document having as its subject the Blessed Virgin Mary - Holy Mother of God - is a crass secular insult to her holy name and the reverence she has among the faithful of the One True Church. May God forgive their narcissistic and insensitive arrogance.

Terri Schiavo, please forgive us.
Our Lady of La Salette, pray for us.
Saint Joseph, Patron of the Universal Church and Protector of the Faithful,
pray for us.
Saints Peter and Paul, pray for us.
Pope Saint Gregory the Great, pray for us.
Pope Saint Pius V, pray for us.
Pope Saint Leo the Great, pray for us.
Pope Saint Pius X, pray for us.
Saint Padre Pio, pray for us.
Saint Athanasius, fierce fighter of the Arians, pray for us.
Saint Clare, the great apostle of Perpetual Eucharistic Adoration, pray for us.
Sister Maria Lucia of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart, pray for us
Saint Michael the Archangel, protect the faithful from the snares of the disciples of Lucifer in disguise, and
bring ruin to those who intimidate, oppress, imprison, torture, and murder His faithful servants
throughout the world.

20 posted on 05/04/2005 5:33:17 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (Da mihi virtutem contra hostes tuos.)
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To: Robert Drobot
Thanks for your observations. I suppose we'll just have to wait to see what this commission comes up with. It is of concern to some of us Orthodox in that, as you certainly know, our Marian theology, patristic in nature and unchanging, was and is highly developed. If the statement merely outlines areas of agreement and disagreement, I suppose that's of little harm and may do some good, but commissions which seek to do more than that with theologians outside The Church, whose hierarchs are arguably not in the Apostolic Succession and many of whom are clearly in communion with other hierarchs who are arguably heretics in some very basic ways, like Griswold, is in my opinion, a dangerous pursuit born more of a "unity above all else" mentality than of a faithfulness to the established doctrines of The Church. The fact that the likes of a Griswold, a man in whose cathedral in NY a "Christa" was hung, whose fellow Episcopalian bishops, at least a majority of them, were unwilling to reaffirm the basic dogmas of the 7 Councils, is invited because of his input into this process gives me a very bad feeling.
25 posted on 05/04/2005 8:50:34 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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