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To: Judica me
Are you implying the vernacular is for the uneducated?

No. As uneducated as I am, my own Church Latin's actually pretty good, but I still prefer English.

Sacraments don't have anything to do with intelligence. They have to do with imparting the Lord's Grace. English, Latin, Spanish who cares? The Lord understands them all.

Do you think Jesus said the Last Supper in Latin? Did John the Baptist baptize Our Lord in Latin? Did the Apostles only speak Latin at Pentecost?

I am not a Novus Ordo Nazi. If you would like to receive your sacraments in Latin, the language used by our Church for centuries, I respect that and I pray you find a parish in communion with Rome that enables you to do so. But it appears you are a Tridentine hardliner and don't want the vast majority of Catholics, who prefer hearing the Mass prayed in their own tongue, to have their choice.

333 posted on 05/04/2005 4:25:50 AM PDT by old and tired
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Christ stated the gates of hell would not prevail against His Church. I for one understand that the gates of Hell have not prevailed. Because the Church resided in the sanctuary of the RCC but continues outside as well. John 10:27, I wont quote it. You look it up. John 15:5, these all state that the church are those that do His will. Not a structure, or tradition, but a live body lead by His spirit. read Mathew 7:1-12.

Lastly how do you answer Christ and the apostle that was sent to the Gentiles, Gal 2:6-10, when they both said beware of tradition?
3Jesus replied, "And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4For God said, 'Honor your father and mother'[a] and 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.'[b] 5But you say that if a man says to his father or mother, 'Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is a gift devoted to God,' 6he is not to 'honor his father[c]' with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:
8" 'These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
9They worship me in vain;
their teachings are but rules taught by men.'[d]"

11My brothers, some from Chloe's household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12What I mean is this: One of you says, "I follow Paul"; another, "I follow Apollos"; another, "I follow Cephas[a]"; still another, "I follow Christ."


334 posted on 05/04/2005 4:46:56 AM PDT by Rhadaghast ( Free Lancer for Christ, Paradigm Shifting Specialist.)
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