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Liberation, not excommunication: Separation from Anglican Communion would mean new opportunities
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| 5/01/2005
| James Bradberry
Posted on 04/28/2005 2:39:30 PM PDT by sionnsar
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posted on
04/28/2005 2:39:31 PM PDT
by
sionnsar
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posted on
04/28/2005 2:40:24 PM PDT
by
sionnsar
(†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?)
To: sionnsar
Your separation would be a blessing to the Anglican Community. Go! Go! Be gone forever!
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posted on
04/28/2005 2:49:13 PM PDT
by
Blake#1
To: sionnsar
Let not the door hit-tith thee where the Good Lord Split-tith thee.
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posted on
04/28/2005 2:58:39 PM PDT
by
brivette
To: sionnsar
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posted on
04/28/2005 3:04:23 PM PDT
by
polymuser
To: sionnsar
Well, if this guy is (1) one of the heretics and (2) in the know . . . could this mean that ECUSA is bowing to the inevitable and trying to spin it into something positive?
And what will that mean re the individual orthodox congregations being able to keep their buildings and cemeteries?
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posted on
04/28/2005 3:29:22 PM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
(. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
To: AnAmericanMother
Don't expect these jackals to give up the goodies. Most will do all they can to keep the cash or at least deny orthodox believers from enjoying the property they built over the centuries.
To: Mark in the Old South
Oh, I know they'll TRY to hang on to it.
But separation from the main body gives the orthodox a leg to stand on (otherwise in many states, including Georgia, they have no way at all to keep their property.)
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posted on
04/28/2005 3:44:06 PM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
(. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
To: sionnsar
This is a good sign, Sionnsar. You'll note how they know that they will be important to the AC after they separate and perhaps indeed they will. I'd suggest they use some of their "pink" missionaries and women priests in Mohammedan areas, just to show those Africans how wrong they are!
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posted on
04/28/2005 4:01:33 PM PDT
by
Kolokotronis
("Set a guard over my mouth, O Lord; keep watch over the door of my lips!" (Psalm 141:3))
To: Kolokotronis; sionnsar
I agree. This is a positive sign.
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posted on
04/28/2005 4:49:27 PM PDT
by
PAR35
To: PAR35; Kolokotronis
I agree also. It's not the first such statement I've seen, but it is perhaps the strongest yet.
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posted on
04/28/2005 5:41:31 PM PDT
by
sionnsar
(†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?)
To: polymuser
Is this the future of the ECUSA or of the many parishes faithful to the doctrine? I may be missing this, but, to me, the website and the artilce remain unclear.
Yes, the ECUSA and the ELCA are in full communion with one another. Is the article implying that the ECUSA led by Frank Griswold will somehow merge with the ELCA? Honestly, I cannot see it going the other way, since it is only once small step for the ECLA to move to ordain an actively homosexual pastor. They already ordain celebate homosexual pastors.
To: sionnsar
I have heard the The University of the South at Sewanee,TN is planning to give Vicki Gene an honorary doctorate degree(as they do to all bishops and he did graduate from the school, much to what should be their shame) but they are capable of being influenced by email protests. They are currently receiving a slew of emails arguing why this shoud not be done. Is it possible to notify everyone on our ping list to contact TPTB at Sewanee with their opinion of why it would be harmful to award an honorary degree when they do not currently offer degrees in adultery, sodomy or ripping a church to shreds due to personal arrogance?
Here is the address of the Dean of the School of Theology :
The Very Rev. Dr. William S. Stafford, Ph.D. Email: wstaffor@sewanee.edu
To: secret garden
Guess we can strike Sewanee off my daughter's college list!
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posted on
04/28/2005 7:05:35 PM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
(. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
To: sionnsar; TonyRo76; redgolum
The Episcopal
club in the United States is
schismatic!!!! It is schismatic now, and if the Anglican Communion "liberates" it, that will only confirm what is already true right now!!!!
(I call the ECUSA a "club" rathter than a church because of a homily that my Serbian priest gave last year, in which he said that "churches" that do not teach the Resurrection are not really "churches", but are CLUBS!!!!)
Even now, Orthodox and Roman Catholic churches, as well as Global South Anglican churches, want nothing to do with the Episcopal club. After it is kicked out of the Anglican communion, evan fewer churches will want anyting to do with the ECUSA. It has left the Body of Christ, it is a dead branch, it is withering away!!!!
Only the deluded ELCA keeps its "full communion" agreement with the Episcopal club. If the ELCA continues that agreement even after the Anglican Communion kicks the club out, that will be just one more reason for me to become Orthodox!!
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posted on
04/28/2005 8:30:26 PM PDT
by
Honorary Serb
(Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
To: polymuser
The "Ex-Lutheran Club in America"?
(See my previous posts above on churches versus clubs,and say a prayer of thanks to God for my Serbian Orthodox priest!)
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posted on
04/28/2005 8:35:50 PM PDT
by
Honorary Serb
(Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
Comment #17 Removed by Moderator
To: Peanut Gallery
They already ordain celibate homosexual pastors. I suspect a number of "active" pastors are already ordained or in the pipe line.
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posted on
04/29/2005 5:47:51 AM PDT
by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: Peanut Gallery
Well, there's a lot to learn by searching the web, and it goes back years. Suggested searchterms: ELCA gay CCM apostate.
Right now, ECUSA bishops are also ELCA bishops, per CCM. That means V. Gene Robinson is a bishop with full power in the ELCA, per my understanding. And the ECUSA views non-HE (Historic Episcopate -- laying of hands from Peter on) ELCA clergy as second class clergy.
ELCA is smaller and per CCM weaker. I predict the ELCA will, after losing significant membership after their August Churchwide Assembly notoriety, merge with the ECUSA.
To: TonyRo76
Reminds me of a conversation I had with a friend of mine when I was in college. He didn't want to go to the church I attended because it made him feel culpable and to quote "like crap". I explained to him that was the whole point. He would have rather gone to a church that made him feel good about himself. I call them "feel good" churches. They don't preach the what we have ben saved from, only that all have been saved.
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