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How is it that CREDO is rendered “We believe”?
The Prayer Book Society: News [1928 BCP] ^ | 4/27/2005 | The Rev. Dr. Peter Toon

Posted on 04/27/2005 8:13:05 PM PDT by sionnsar

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Mountain out of molehill is an understatement.


21 posted on 04/28/2005 10:17:40 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: Unam Sanctam

Some parishes, including mine, have now gone back to "I believe". We also have been instructed not to hold hands during the "Our Father", although many still do (I'll be charitable and say it is an old habits die hard kind of thing, and they might not have been at the masses when Father instructed us not to).


22 posted on 04/28/2005 6:19:12 PM PDT by rmichaelj
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To: D-fendr

I agree that taken individually it might not be a huge deal, the problem is that there are thousands of these "mole-hills" and most of them are expressions of the belief that each individual parish preist or worse "liturgical council" has the right to change the mass as they see fit. I don't can't completely blame many of the priests and laypersons for thinking this way as it was supported by the ICEL and many bishops for years.

The problem is that combined with the emphasis on individualism in western nations it will be hard to bring the mass back into the accepted norms without a bit of house cleaning. With luck it will be as quick an painless as possible, but I'm not a big believer in luck.


23 posted on 04/28/2005 6:26:48 PM PDT by rmichaelj
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To: Fithal the Wise
Pisteuo is much more than believe.

Your suggestion that it be translated "I trust" agrees with one of England's most religious poets:

Even such is time, that takes in trust
Our youth, our joys, our all we have,
And pays us but with earth and dust;
Who in the dark and silent grave,
When we have wander'd all out ways,
Shuts up the story of our days;
But from this earth, this grave, this dust,
My God shall raise me up, I trust.

[Sir Walter Raleigh - found written in his Bible after his execution]

24 posted on 04/28/2005 6:54:33 PM PDT by John Locke
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To: rmichaelj

I just don't see where "I believe" or "We believe" matters a bit. The communion of saints, community, charity, humilty, service... depend on other factors.

Thanks for your reply.


25 posted on 04/28/2005 6:56:19 PM PDT by D-fendr
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