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21 Lessons from the 21st Century: Lesson 19
C.S. Lewis & Francis Schaeffer: Lessons ... from the Most Influential Apologists of Our Time | 1998 | Scott R. Burson & Jerry L. Walls

Posted on 04/25/2005 5:54:00 AM PDT by logos

19. Flexibility and versatility

John Frame, professor of apologetics and systematic theology at Westminster Theological Seminary in California, believes Schaeffer's most important contribution was his ability to bring the full spectrum of reality into the apologetic arena. From biology to business, philosophy to physics, ecology to engineering, Schaeffer consistently displayed remarkable flexibility and versatility in his quest to meet a wide range of people on their own turf.

Schaeffer firmly believed that apologetics must be a person-relative enterprise. Each individual is unique, so no single argument will work with everybody. This is undoubtedly a poignant word in light of our highly diverse culture. We can be sure that a canned apologetic that largely ignores personal considerations will stall more often than not. What we need now more than ever is a nonmechanical method, one that can be tailored to the specific needs and interests of each individual.

Here again, the cumulative case approach is well-suited to meet this need. It is an inherently flexible model that provides for a good deal of creativity and adaptation. As we have seen, this approach is much like assembling a jigsaw puzzle. There is only one ultimate pattern, but a variety of angles from which construction can begin. With one person we might start at the bottom, in which case a landscape will naturally emerge first. With someone else we might start from above, in which case a cluster of clouds and a vivid blue sky will initially appear. Ultimately, however, despite the direction from which we start, all the pieces will need to be set in place if we are to be thoroughly converted and the complete picture is to crystallize. Such a model clearly offers the flexibility and versatility needed to forge a compassionate, person-relative apologetic for the twenty-first century.


TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: 21lessons; apologetics; cslewis; evangelism; francisschaeffer
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1 posted on 04/25/2005 5:54:02 AM PDT by logos
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To: Alamo-Girl; Alex Murphy; betty boop; blue-duncan; Choose Ye This Day; Corin Stormhands; ...

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2 posted on 04/25/2005 5:54:38 AM PDT by logos
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To: logos

What is needed today is apologetics without political interests.


3 posted on 04/25/2005 5:59:12 AM PDT by cornelis
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To: cornelis
You're right, of course, and while apologetics sans politics is not impossible, it does seem to be more than a little difficult.
4 posted on 04/25/2005 6:22:13 AM PDT by logos
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To: logos; betty boop; cornelis
Thank you so very much for this next installment!!!

I strongly agree with the need for flexibility in approach. But to do this, it is very important to understand the language of the "target".

For instance, if one begins from the aspect of philosophy but doesn't understand the terminology, he may lose credibility and thus do more harm than good.

Perhaps then, if one needs to approach from an aspect where he is unsure of his footing in the language, he might want to co-journey with a target one-on-one - both sharing understanding along the way. This way he can learn both the language and the objection and the target, being a contributor to the quest, has a vested interest in the conclusion.

5 posted on 04/25/2005 6:46:55 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: cornelis

What is needed is Apologetics with courtesy.


6 posted on 04/25/2005 7:56:50 AM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: logos
Such a model clearly offers the flexibility and versatility needed to forge a compassionate, person-relative apologetic for the twenty-first century.

Paul must have understood this twenty-first century apologetic. :)

I Corinthians 9:22
...to the weak I became as weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.

We are living apologists, modeling what is truth to us. How are we perceived?

7 posted on 04/25/2005 10:11:34 AM PDT by suzyjaruki (We love Him because He first loved us. 1John 4:19)
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To: blue-duncan
Courtesy? Was there something specific you had in mind?
8 posted on 04/25/2005 10:41:18 AM PDT by cornelis
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To: cornelis

No, just an observation from some of the discussions on this forum. We need to remember that systems of theology and/or apologetics are just that, man's devised systems and we should respect the fact that not all will agree with our particular system. That does not mean that we don't agree on salvation by faith alone in the finished work of the Lord. But, we can agree to disagree in a civil manner on the order in which that salvation takes place and the role we play, if any, in it.


9 posted on 04/25/2005 11:15:55 AM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan; logos; Alamo-Girl; betty boop
Civility is an odd thing, or so I'm led to believe when I reflect what the writer Flannery O'Connor once said about love. She said it always fails, and that's why we need civility.

Civility is the diplomacy that staves off arms in the absence of love for an enemy.

Civility, then, assumes that we are human before we are orthodox (a strange tension, which certainly Schaeffer spoke about and also estranged some. Lewis speaks of the Tao)

And civility has its limitations. The best politicians know this, of course, as do the "best" apologetes. A lie can be persuasive when it's spoken softly by a gentleman who remembers your name.

10 posted on 04/25/2005 11:26:41 AM PDT by cornelis
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To: cornelis; logos; Alamo-Girl; betty boop

But don't you think "courtesy" carries with it respect and consideration for the other person, whereas "civility" is a cultural construct, i.e., an epithet, spoken in jest, would be entertaining in a civil way whereas it would not be courteous since it is made at the expense of the other person.

So instead of starting the debate with "Only a fool would disagree..", we would say "In all do respect.."


11 posted on 04/25/2005 12:09:25 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: cornelis; Alamo-Girl; marron; logos
A lie can be persuasive when it's spoken softly by a gentleman who remembers your name.

That's a fact, cornelis. Among the "radicals," a lie is considered a useful and quite legitimate tool, for their ends justify such means. The unsuspecting naive can get really rooked by this brand of "apologetics." I imagine the only safety we have from such subversive attack is firm reliance on the Truth of God as revealed in the Holy Scriptures.

12 posted on 04/25/2005 12:14:13 PM PDT by betty boop (If everyone is thinking alike, then no one is thinking. -- Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: blue-duncan
True, acts of courtesy may result in more than the minimum which civility requires.

It's tough when the civil people know this and demand courtesy when instead justice is required. Justice and mercy don't easily embrace.

13 posted on 04/25/2005 12:16:57 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: cornelis

Courtesy is part of the inventory of a believer that is never depleted since it flows naturally from the implanted new life. The hinderance is our decision to self protect rather than trusting God, then we become gods to decide who is deserving of our consideration. Let the world demand of us courtesy. It is our privilege to give them what they don't deserve since we have received what we didn't deserve.

My problem is not with the world demanding but our refusal to be courteous, let alone loving, to one another in discussing the things of the Lord.


14 posted on 04/25/2005 1:09:02 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan; betty boop; cornelis; logos
Thank y'all for this engaging discussion! This has been a most productive project, logos. Thank you!

With regard to civility:

And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all [men], apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; And [that] they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will. - 2 Timothy 2:24-26


15 posted on 04/25/2005 8:21:56 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; All

"Let the heavens rejoice,
Let the earth be glad"

Little Isabela Margarita was born at 11:30 P.M. last night and I am a grandfather and doing fine, thank you. Oh, and mom and the baby Isabela are fine also..


16 posted on 04/26/2005 5:39:07 AM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan
Praise God!!! Congratulations to all of you!
17 posted on 04/26/2005 6:57:12 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: blue-duncan

'Tis a great day indeed! Congratulations, gramps!


18 posted on 04/26/2005 7:01:24 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: blue-duncan

CONGRATULATIONS!!!! God bless Mom and Baby Isabela!


19 posted on 04/26/2005 7:18:53 AM PDT by betty boop (If everyone is thinking alike, then no one is thinking. -- Gen. George S. Patton)
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